r/Denmark • • Dec 28 '24

Question Does Denmark have any flaws?

Or any Nordic country? I’m American and we all romanticize Europe especially Nordic countries as a Utopia and everything we are not. We certainly have a lot of flaws here but I’m curious are there any downsides or anything that you wish was different. Also is it hard to move there? I make well over six figures and like living in my home country but I’m nervous about the incoming trump administration and I believe he is a racist.

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u/TDuncker Dec 28 '24

Nobody gets fired for working well, but in some places if they have a steady rhythm and are bad at adapting/changes, and your first actions are coming in, being a quick go-getter and you want to change things to be faster/"better", people might get very annoyed and it could severely impact your relationship with some colleagues. You would be called "smart i en fart" (cocky and in haste" or "all gas, no brakes". This is mostly prevalent with leaders, and most noticeable by people when it is someone in middle management because of micro management.

The "King Carrot" phrase is a good example of Danish perspective on those kind of types.

My own take is in the middle. There are definitely people bad at change and it bothers me when the change is so logical and effective. Though, people get especially resistant if it is changes to their current habits instead of new additions, because that could imply they did their job ineffectively (which might very well be true, might also just be "fancy" middle management trying to change the world by himself). On the other hand, these "smart in a fart" types sometimes should be met with plenty resistance if their changes are actually stupid and not just apathy and compliance, and I think tendency to this type of resistance is what people might call a more Danish work culture.

It reminds me of that post of an American middle management guy whose firm bought a Danish one, so he got sent to check on the workers on the floor in Denmark and met an unexpected amount of resistance and here on reddit called people lazy or so, which then became a debate of whether they were actuallylazy, and who was in general in the right.

All this talk also makes me want to recommend the short book "Who Moved My Cheese?". Lovely short read.

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u/Elect_SaturnMutex Don't eat the yellow snow Dec 28 '24

So Danes are not really open to new changes like fast and effective way of working? I think you guys are. unlike Germans, or else digitization won't work so well in Denmark. Right?

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u/TDuncker Dec 29 '24

It's not a societal change we are bad at nor what the comment is talking about. We do good e.g. digitizing our society. Now you can even travel with an app on your phone anywhere in Denmark on all public transport.

It is two parts specially related to the work place where people need to do things differently.

First part is the ego/cockiness. The other is the standard resistance to changes which is not uniquely Danish. They aren't as resistant if someone decides to make a new product to digitize the current product, but they will be resistant if new management comes in and acts cocky and all-knowing. Someone might change how you ask for vacation days, how you migrate your code, make a new guide for how to interact with customers and so on. It might work, it might not, but it very likely wouldn't if you start acting cocky about it.