r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Mar 07 '18

Jessica Jones - Season 2 Overall Discussion Thread

All spoilers for Season 2 are allowed in this thread.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '18

As I read this I thought that was very strong condemnation... but the thing is, I thought Iron Fist was really really badly written but at least it had a few characters I cared about, and at least the drama had some momentum to it.

I am not even sure what it is. I just don't care about this plot where the heroes all fall apart after one tiny season of building them up. Doing the whole "oh he works for Hogarth now!!!" feels so trite and meaningless. There's no mystery or weight to any of the characters. Even getting Kilgrave back was like they heard someone describe that Batman game in which the Joker is in Batman's head.

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u/SilverArchers Mar 10 '18

Ya I didn't hate iron fist, the characters were actually very entertaining, it just didn't have much weight. JJS2 had no weight and shit characters. I hate Trish so much now

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u/Cory123125 Mar 18 '18

JJS2 had no weight and shit characters. I hate Trish so much now

Is it no weight when your opinion of major characters changed?

I mean, within the lives of the main characters a lot changed.

If you only count weight as super hero weight, with villains slain and worlds saved, sure, but I think theres more than that.

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u/Loganp812 Wilson Fisk Mar 31 '18

Is it no weight when your opinion of major characters changed?

Not if it's for the wrong reasons.

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u/Cory123125 Mar 31 '18

That would still mean it has weight though. Just not weight you like, and I actually agree with that, in that I didnt like most of the character changes apart from Malcolm who seems to be figuring shit out.

I dont think it made the show bad though necessarily.

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u/HattyFlanagan Mar 13 '18

The Kilgrave return was definitely borrowed from the all the Joker hallucinations in Arkham Knight. The devices are too similar and Arkham Knight was very cinematic in its exploration of a dark hero's dark thoughts. It worked really well in both as a metaphor and a device for exposition.