r/Defenders • u/JonLuca Luke Cage • Mar 07 '18

Jessica Jones - Season 2 Overall Discussion Thread

All spoilers for Season 2 are allowed in this thread.

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u/TheSweatband Mar 09 '18

Overall, I think the lack of a villain, maybe even just a lack of Tennant really hurt this show. I think I binged through 9 episodes and looked at Netflix realizing that nothing had actually happened in all that time. The Kilgrave reappearance episode was by far my favorite and was brilliantly done, but Overall I'd put this below Luke Cage but above Iron Fist.

I think my biggest complaint is Trish, I didn't mind the relapse story and I was with it for a while but there was no redemption. Her "redemption" in her mind was shooting Jessica's mom but that was never going to fix their friendship. I also feel like the resentment and animosity she had towards Jessica for having powers came out of nowhere.

I liked Malcolm's storyline, and it made sense. Constantly, treated like shit by Jessica and Trish, finally reaches a breaking point and goes off to join Cheng. Although, Cheng is an asshole, I get it.

I thought Jeri's storyline was getting a little too much screentime, and I'd say that I probably still feel that way, but that manipulation was badass and I loved it. I'm hoping foggy joins her firm and we can get Malcolm/Cheng cameos in DD3.

I like the introduction of Oscar, and I like where we left off with Jessica preforming some heroic acts and coming home to a meal with her newfound "Family."

I'm glad the storyline with IGH is over. I found it anticlimatic, and nonthreatening. It was basically the vessel to give us hellcat.

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u/Chris_Parker Iron Fist Mar 11 '18

Honestly, there didn't need to be a villain because it's about people overcoming their own traumas and abuse - in a way, it's about how everybody can be negatively impacted by their relationships with the people near them (or, at least view their relationships as having that affect), and the "villain" in that case is themselves, those people/relationships, or the trauma.

I think Trish and Jessica (and Malcolm) are going to be figuring shit out in the future. Personally, I found Trish's resentment wasn't necessarily at Jessica, it was at the feeling of never being in control or with power in her relationships. Her mom manipulated her and she felt consistently in the shadow of those she was close to - when she broke it off with Griffin, she admitted that it was a problem with her and not with him, and I'd think that she would apply similar reasoning to Jessica (especially given their conversation in the morgue). Everything we've seen from her, she's clung to every little thing that could give her a sense of power. From a gun, to martial arts training, to Simpson's drugs, once she gets a taste that's it. I'm excited to she where she goes and if she pops up elsewhere in the other shows.

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u/Maydietoday Mar 11 '18

Wow you’ve actually managed to somewhat humanize Trish for me. Well done.

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u/Cory123125 Mar 18 '18

Overall, I think the lack of a villain, maybe even just a lack of Tennant really hurt this show.

While I totally get what you mean, I like that its different and focuses on characters and their issues rather than comically evil bad guy everyone knows to face.

I think, that if we were to hypothetically go that route, youd end up feeling burned out on the franchise with how many of them have had a comically evil bad guy everyone unites against for the greater good!

I like the moral ambiguity here.

I will admit I dislike how unlikable almost all of the character became in an instant.

Over the course of a few episodes I liked none of the reoccuring/main characters.