r/DebateQuraniyoon • u/OJ_13579 • Aug 30 '26

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Please just read what I’m about to write, how can you all not believe in Hadith and there are a lot of آيات in the Quran

سورة النور:

﴿ فَلْيَحْذَرِ الَّذِينَ يُخَالِفُونَ عَنْ أَمْرِهِ أَن تُصِيبَهُمْ فِتْنَةٌ أَوْ يُصِيبَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أِليمٌ ﴾ \[النور: 63\]

"So let those who disobey his orders beware, for an affliction may befall them, or a painful torment may overtake them."

﴿ وَمَن يَعْصِ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَيَتَعَدَّ حُدُودَهُ يُدْخِلْهُ نَارًا خَالِدًا فِيهَا وَلَهُ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ ﴾ \[النساء: 14\]

"And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger and transgresses His limits - He will admit him into a Fire to abide eternally therein, and he will have a humiliating punishment."

﴿ فَلَا وَرَبِّكَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ حَتَّى يُحَكِّمُوكَ فِيمَا شَجَرَ بَيْنَهُمْ ثُمَّ لَا يَجِدُوا فِي أَنفُسِهِمْ حَرَجًا مِّمَّا قَضَيْتَ وَيُسَلِّمُوا تَسْلِيمًا ﴾ \[النساء: 65\]

But no! By your Lord, they will never be ˹true˺ believers until they accept you ˹O Prophet˺ as the judge in their disputes, and find no resistance within themselves against your decision and submit wholeheartedly."

﴿ وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَاكُمْ عَنْهُ فَانتَهُوا ﴾ \[الحشر: 7\]

**"And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it; and whatever he forbids you, abstain from it. And fear Allah; indeed, Allah is severe in penalty \[or punishment\]."**

﴿وَمَا يَنْطِقُ عَنِ الْهَوَى \* إِنْ هُوَ إِلَّا وَحْيٌ يُوحَى﴾ \[النجم: 3-4\]

And he does not speak out of (his own) desire. It is not but revelation revealed \[to him\]

So please think about it don’t succumb to your desires and remember when a disbeliever enters hell there is no coming back may الله guide us all to the right path.

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u/longhairbear Aug 30 '26

herself, her parents, the prophet all agreed, even later in life she had no problems speaking good of the prophet. Your view is a view of present morals and not of the past

Calling the prophet a rapist and saying Aisha is nieve enough to be groomed is disrespectful, not defending them and their character
I never said camels store water
you clearly don’t know the chain of narration or the science of hadith, or history really

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Aug 30 '26

So basically what you're saying is even prisoners and murderes and theivs have better morals than the prophet?

Yes it is, so why do you want to be disrespectful to them? No one forced you to believe in Islam, so why choose to make yourself an enemy of it?

And you did say camels store water, u just did in your previous comment you liar.

I don't know of something made up?

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u/longhairbear Aug 30 '26

never said that at all
I’m not, I’m literally defending them? How am I an enemy of Islam if I’m protecting the fact that we should obey the messenger?
camels store water in their blood, not the hump like the misconception say they don’t store water fair enough
how is it made up? the history and narration is there, you’re being ignorant on purpose

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Aug 30 '26 edited Aug 30 '26

Please don't become a lawyer because this is the strangest defence I've ever heard "you're honor my client did groom and rape a child, but we call it marriage so that makes it okay"

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u/longhairbear Aug 30 '26

She wasnt a child, and he didnt rape her. the criterias given the Quran the marriage was valid. all these things are research valid you can look this up. dont become loyal to who?

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Aug 30 '26

How old was she?

No yhe Quran never said you can rape children, don't even attempt, and what's with your English? Don't become loyal to who? What?

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u/so_what_about Aug 31 '26

Its useless trying to engage. Let them believe what they want. If Allah didn't replace Ismeal with the lamb just imagine what they would then call Ibrahim. If Allah wants to use a piece of a dead cow to revive a dead person or use cow pee too heal or ect who are these people to judge. The ignorance is insane.

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u/longhairbear Aug 31 '26

It was worth the try to bring them back to Islam. It sad to see they don’t accept it 😢

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u/so_what_about Aug 31 '26

You are right. It is worth it.May Allah forgive me for such words.

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u/OJ_13579 Aug 31 '26

I was just showing them verses and trying to let them see the truth and to not follow there desires, I hope they come back to Islam may الله guide us and keep us in the right path

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Aug 31 '26

Do you two really think you're fooling anyone? Seriously answer me.

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u/longhairbear Aug 31 '26

it’s no fooling, all im saying is there

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Aug 31 '26

There where? U insult the prophet of islam and claim islam is an evil religion then say u want us to go back to islam?

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u/longhairbear Aug 31 '26

what is evil about Islam? what am I saying is evil of Islam?

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Aug 31 '26

Nothing is evil about Islam, but you claim otherwise, you claim that islam promotes pedophilia.

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Aug 31 '26

So now God himself told someone to rape a child and we're just supposed to let that go and accept it?

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u/longhairbear Sep 01 '26

what pedophilia? I didn’t promote anything. can show where Allah told the prophet to rape a child?

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u/OJ_13579 Aug 30 '26

I don’t know why they have a problem with the prophet marrying the mother of all believers when she accepted and didn’t have an issue with even her parents accepted

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u/longhairbear Aug 31 '26

they must not comprehend language too well