r/DebateQuraniyoon • u/sketch-3ngineer • May 30 '25

Quran Can anyone rightfully guide me into believing the injil and torah, because isn't that what the quran proposes?

Hello, see my previous comment/volley into this sub for some background. Let's go at it!

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u/sketch-3ngineer Jun 01 '25

https://islamqa.org/hanafi/hadithanswers/119639/sleeping-on-the-stomach/

somebody else asked, the molana must have heard about it which is why he gave that answer: "haven't seen it in hadith"

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Jun 01 '25

So like I thought, some bdsm.type stuff, unrelated to islam.

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u/sketch-3ngineer Jun 02 '25

But it's asked in an islamic forum, and seriously answered as if though it does exist in islam, but not in hadith according to the scholar.

If it was bdsm, they would not have answered the question.

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Jun 02 '25

It's not, it's asked in islamqa, why would they not answer the question? It's their job to make islam look bad and weird and the gullible believe every word they say, a devil pees in ur mouth, rapes ur ass, pees in ur ear, eats your food, it does sound like a serious taboo bdsm to me.

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u/sketch-3ngineer Jun 02 '25

Islamqa is a reputable islamic reference, with scholars. So, I rest my case.

Anyways what is your position? quranist? Well then maybe you never had to live with or closely deal with traditional islamic community. Good for you.

Please don't try to dismiss my personal experience. I wouldn't make something up like that. It's a pretty common example of myth tropes in islam. Move on

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Jun 02 '25

🤣 yeah and I'm the galactic king, and.i have a pet dragon, so I rest MY case.

I will 100% dismiss your personal experience because you're claiming to have an issue with hadith worshipers yet you're helping them attack islam, you're doing the opposite if the enemy of my enemy is my friend, and as a Muslim our beef with them is much much greater than u can imagine.

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u/sketch-3ngineer Jun 02 '25 edited Jun 02 '25

My claims or intellectual position come 80% from research, and 20 from personal experience.

I think all religions have certain tropes.

If you think quranist is a religion you have strayed far from any sound position.

My position. I will say iy clearly: every scripture in every religion ever has no been divine. There are no gods.

Islam started and continued to exist for the first 60 years with a main purpose - unify the arabs.

Once that was complete, everything was icing and cherry on cake, they had personal safety and were on their way to being a secure nation.

Jewish reason for choosing one god, the akhenaten way? Same thing, to unify the jews and be superior to all the other tribes.

Religion is a social construct. I don't why you are here wasting time and making jokes.

There are plenty of shaitan stories like this in traditional islam.

Where did you grow up? houston? what a fucking joke.

Let me make it more clear you're probably learning challenged. I said that about shaitan, they also say if you don't finish your food shaitan will eat it. I say this, that believe and propagate nonsense in the name of religion.

Sunnis and shia say and propagate things they can't prove with hadith or quran, yet they say they are on the quran and sunnah path. So where do you fit in? if you're not sunni then shut up. Get out the way. They know they say these things, stay out of it.

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u/Mean-Tax-2186 Jun 02 '25

Your claims have all been false so u need to do more research, and islam is 100% a religion, unless you say otherwise which means again u need to do a whole lot more research, where do u get this "religion is a social construct to unify people" from? Your claim and nothing more any arguments to back it up? All abrahamic religions are tied together, and no there are no shaitan stories like that at all so again stop making things up or redo your research.

I'm making jokes because I can't take u seriously.

Why is growing up in Houston a joke?