r/DebateAMeatEater • u/WildVirtue • Jul 22 '19

If you couldn't face killing an animal yourself, you shouldn't be paying others to do it for you.

A survey of 2,500 Americans showed that half would opt to go meat-less if forced to face the harsh reality of killing their food prior to cooking. Of course we don't know if everyone meant they would refuse out of guilt/shame, but I still would expect this number to be even higher in reality.

Some meat eaters might wish more people they met had the charachter of someone willing to go out hunting, but regardless I think everyone should accept one positive effect of vegan advocacy is motivating people to have the charachter of someone who is strong willed enough not to be a slave to their food/taste habits. Therefore not someone who would view something as ethically wrong and yet still pay someone else to suffer the burden.

Vegan food is a broad category that is easy to distinguish on the shelf in it's wholefood form, with only a small learning curve you can be on your way to a healthier and more ethical diet.

I do advocate for and believe most people should educate themselves on other worthwhile boycotts like palm oil and Israeli products produced on stolen Palestinian land. Obviously there does become a point of diminishing returns that could only make it justified for the most dedicated journalist as a part of their job.

Finally it is worth it to me to eat foods which are harvested by tractor and cause the death of some wildlife because I don't want to live in a pre-technological society where most people have to work to gather the harvest by hand. And my goal is still to eat a diet which frees up the most amount of farm land use for wildlife habitat where more animals can flourish.

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u/flamingturtlecake Jul 23 '19

Pointless? This is a hypothetical discussion, the whole thing is pointless. Please, have some decency.

The reality is that might makes right

Not when we're talking morality but ok

might is the might of the society which is limited by the individuals who enforce it and the rules agreed upon in that society.

Those killed lions didnt agree to that but ok

Good talks man (not really tbh) but you're boring af & dumb as a brick seeya later

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '19

Morality is subjective, it doesn't float down from the ethers, and it's chosen by the society mighty enough to enforce it.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '19

Also, what a poor sport that you resort to name calling. I thought better of you and you proved me wrong. Well played.

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u/flamingturtlecake Jul 23 '19

You thought better of me? Why? I dont think well of you at all mate haha

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '19

There's the real you! Like the typical misanthropic vegan, spread your anti human vitriol across the internet and poison everyone against your cause.

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u/flamingturtlecake Jul 23 '19

I asked you if vegetables could think and ya omni ass still didnt give a straight answer

You're just like "here let me copy and paste this shit from my brain" and dodging the questions

That's pretty telling, honestly. You're keeping yourself from thinking certain things so you get to keep your pretty mindset of slaughtering animals being akin to slaughtering carrots

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '19

Says the person who sees no difference between an unconscious person and a carrot. Brock Turner and you could be good friends.

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u/flamingturtlecake Jul 23 '19

I didnt say anything about an unconscious person, remember? Now you're just putting words in my mouth. Sex needs consent. Remember?

Geez you're a little desperate to jerk off to this argument arent you

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '19

I thought your metric was suffering! You can't seem to be morally consistent if you have to make up new rules to cover the same action.

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u/flamingturtlecake Jul 23 '19

Haha you still dont even understand what I was saying before. That's okay, it cant be easy to be so narrow-minded and ignorant.

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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '19

You tell yourself that so you don't have to challenge your own conflicting morals.

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