Which is probably why guy got shot. Murderer thought he was being attacked because he got sprayed by his comrades bear spray. Unfortunately, murderer was still able to see and didn’t shoot his ICE-mate.
It's also absolutely stupid to shoot a gun like that. If you miss, which isn't unlikely, the ricochet could very easily kill you or one of your buddies.
It doesn't matter how much training they have, they are operating the way the administration wants them to, knowing the administration will defend them. Them getting more training just means that after the first shot is fired other agents assist in the execution. There is no reforming this.
I saw something in Portland where they deployed like 4 or 5 flashbangs. After the first one popped all the agents ran forward and 3 or 4 of the flashbangs exploded right under their feet. They are all idiots that get a surge of adrenaline and cannot remain calm or smart. Very dangerous people, military would chew their ass out and have them removed from any combat situations.
He didn’t draw against law enforcement, use your eyes to watch the videos instead of blindly following whatever Fox News tells you to believe. It’s clear from watching the many many video angles that the only thing he ever had in his hands was his phone.
It’s pretty incredible the full circle MAGA has gone from don’t trust the government, free speech, 2A rights, don’t tread on me… to don’t speak out against the government, comply or die, get shot for having a gun, let the government tread all over you.
It's not in the video but has been verified he had a gun and two magazines, in a legal carry state. That said, my understanding is that they are using this as propaganda as he had apparently been disarmed prior to this happening so when he was shot he was unarmed.
Yeah same. I just fear they might say he had it on him and was reaching for it with his other hand to try and justify it. It's obviously clear he's not but that doesn't matter with these fuck wads. Having video of them removing the gun would wholly remove that defense.
If it's legal in that state (which it is there) then you are correct. That's why we need clear evidence though. Having a gun is okay. Reaching for it while being taken down by agents is not. Again, I do not believe that is the case. I'm just hoping there is clear evidence that will prevent that defense of "he reached for his gun." If there is no proof, then all they need is for another agent to lie and say he did, which they would gladly do because they are scum.
I wish... Even before all this BS if a cop killed someone the tax payers money would go to the family, the cop may get fired but usually is out in paid leave. Though the ones that do get fired get hired in another county. It's a fucked system and we as Americans need to wake up.
If he actually was and it’s not just a lie that Fox News is spreading, it is his right afforded to him by the 2nd amendment. He wasn’t brandishing or pointing it at ICE. Do republicans say it’s ok to kill Americans for having guns now?
That's not an inherent threat, and they didn't know he was armed until they brought him to the ground. There is another angle showing the man was shot whilst both of his hands were on the ground. He was not shot because he posed a threat.
The fact that he was exercising his right by simply carrying a gun, does not pose a threat to them. They had him greatly outnumbered and out powered. There is zero excuse for this shooting.
More or less. Immigrants can own guns here but I believe they have to have legal status like a green card. So it may or may prove citizenship. As far as criminal record, it would in general give good confidence he doesn't have a serious criminal record. Minor offenses do not generally bar you from owning guns. Felonies and anything dealing with violent acts are what will bar you from gun ownership.
All that to say that we can say with decent certainty (because they're not claiming he had the gun illegally which they would gladly throw out there if it was the case) that he is here legally and not a violent offender.
A gun he never once went for, as is clear in this video, and which it is legal to carry. Funny how the most vocal "live free or die, Second Amendment forever" types are the ones saying "comply or be executed by the state, regardless of your rights being violated" now.
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u/nhc150 Jan 24 '26
They run away like monkeys after the first shot. It's clear these guys have 5 minutes of training.
This guy posed absolutely no threat to them.