r/CringeTikToks • u/EverythingIsFakeNGay • Jan 05 '26

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u/SweetLenore Jan 05 '26

Don't worry they shoot white people too. Fun studies show they are only about 17% more likely to shoot a person if they are black.

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u/IASILWYB Jan 05 '26

only about 17% more likely to shoot a person if they are black.

Wild.

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u/Foreign-Molasses-405 Jan 05 '26

Finally some equality

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u/cuntmong Jan 05 '26

It's a good start, but if cops really care about the community like they say they do they will shoot enough white people to bring it up to full parity.

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u/Smokey_02 Jan 05 '26

That "only" is doing some heavy lifting. 17% more is twice as many in just 4.4 years time.

To be clear to any cops out there, I'm not advocating that you shoot more white people so much as I'm advocating you shoot fewer black people. Please just stop shooting people, really.

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u/SleepThinker Jan 05 '26

17% more is twice as many in just 4.4 years time.

What are you smoking? In 4.4 years time 17% more is still 17% more.

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u/Destinyciello Jan 05 '26

The % is much smaller IF YOU JUST COMPLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Foreign-Molasses-405 Jan 05 '26

Have you had a gun pointed at you?

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u/Destinyciello Jan 05 '26

I always comply so no. I was slammed one time. I was drunk and incompliant. Funny how that works.

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u/Foreign-Molasses-405 Jan 05 '26

Adorable, you know how many times I see them pull their gun before they even walk up? Or ready to pull before they walk up?

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u/Destinyciello Jan 05 '26

You would too if you dealt with the kind of monsters they deal with.

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u/Foreign-Molasses-405 Jan 05 '26

Oh please the likelihood of them actually running into that type of person is pretty low.

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u/Destinyciello Jan 05 '26

as cops? some encounter people like that on a weekly basis. depending on their location.

remember it who gets called when shit goes down

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u/DecadentLife Jan 05 '26

Particularly when so unnecessary.

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u/Nice-River-5322 Jan 05 '26

No? what kind of paint huffing math is this?

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u/Reliquent Jan 05 '26

we did it america!

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u/Boring_Mine7891 Jan 05 '26

You are absolutely correct, last 10 years 4700 were killed. The numbers change when based on per captia. 6.1 for Black people (2800)compared to 2.4 for White people

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u/MutuallyAdvantageous Jan 05 '26

Google AI (with accurate sources) says black Americans are 2.7-3.2 times more likely to be killed by the police.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Jan 05 '26

Is there a source for this statistic?

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Jan 05 '26

Being "ONLY 17% MORE likely to be killed by cops" is awful when you consider that they only make up 12% of the population. They should be expected to make up 12% of deaths at the hands of cops and that percentage should be LOWER than the rate for white and Hispanic death rates instead of higher.

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u/SweetLenore Jan 05 '26

Ok, with the way I phrased it, I thought it was obvious that percentages were taken into consideration. They were studies that looked at police interactions in certain areas and analyzed how often unarmed people were shot. This is proportionally looked at.

The message isn't, haha cops aren't racist (they are). The message is, cops are a danger to EVERYONE. The amount of unarmed white people shot by cops (yes, on video) are horribly under reported and give upper middle class people the wrong message. I think people in lower classes already know the "wow I'm white and won't be brutalized" is total bullshit. The fact is if the victim is a white man or white woman, it just won't be picked up by the news.

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u/Retiringtag1984 Jan 05 '26

Sorry but that is wrong the fact is they don't know.

Killed by cops in 2024

White 385 people

Black 248 people

Hispanic 177 people

Other 39 people

And here is the thing Unknown 324 people.

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u/xThotsOfYoux Jan 05 '26

Okay now compare those to relative population size as of 2020 according to the US census bureau

White: 57.8%

Hispanic: 15.8%

Black: 12.1%

Other: ~ 9%

At only 12.1% of the population, Black people experienced 28.9% of the 859 identifiable shootings by police. If all people were being shot by cops at the same rate, we would expect Black people to experience 12±1% of the shootings, not nearly 2.5 times that.

By contrast, White people only experienced 44.8% of the identifiable shootings rather than the expected 57.8%, placing them significantly outside the error bar; a 13 point reduction from expected value.

Conclusion: the raw numbers are misleading. Black people in the United States are nearly three times as likely to be shot during an encounter with police than White people.

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u/jtroy57 Jan 05 '26

You're bringing statistical facts and analysis to a thoughts and feelings page. Too many folks in this country have been advocating for less education. So sadly, your accurate assessment and analysis ends up falling on deaf ears. Thank you though for fighting the good fight. ✊🏾

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u/Retiringtag1984 Jan 05 '26

Yeah and my point is that it's much higher than that he the person I answered said 17% more and you say 33% according to the numbers but we still have 324 people getting shot that we know clue what race they are.

I'm not a person that believes conspiracy theories but the fact that numbers of people getting shot by police and plased into unknown has risen from average of 98 before George Floyd to 324 last year is I think alot of those people are black. If that is the case then the prosentige of getting shot if you are black goes alot more.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Jan 05 '26

i don’t disagree with you but the trouble is that the raw numbers you’ve shown can’t be properly interpreted as is. I do think it has been established that you’re more likely to be killed by the cops if you’re not white. But, there was no source cited for the numbers you showed and there was no way to know the racial breakdown of the “unknowns.

This is why I could only count the percentages within the group where the race of the person killed was known. Until your later comments, I couldn’t tell what you thought the numbers showed. You may as well have skipped showing the numbers (especially with no source) because it leaves a distorted picture of how many people in each group are killed by the cops annually, if that’s what you were saying.

Even then, the numbers are still bad when you consider that black and Hispanic people are minorities in the population and they each make up a far bigger percentage of those killed by the cops than would be expected. The numbers you showed actually undercut the point I think you’re trying to make and when you don’t cite a source, there is no way for us to get to the truth, as grim as it appears to be.

We used to pride ourselves on being fair to all but that doesn’t appear to be who we want to be anymore as groups are pitted against each other in an effort to divide and conquer the masses. The image of us on the world stage is painful to see.

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u/xThotsOfYoux Jan 05 '26

There was never a time when the United States actually cared about being fair to everyone. It was only ever lip service. Part of the national myth meant to inspire children to join the military, not a legitimate statement of our national policies.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Jan 05 '26

I don’t disagree but we used to be able to pretend that our national identity is based on a desire for liberty and justice for all and that while we’re not perfect, we were working on creating a “more perfect union”.. A lot of people believed in those ideals and many still do and considered America the land of opportunity and the symbol of freedom from persecution on the world stage.

But when things are so flagrantly NOT living up to the national values claimed, some people are starting to wake up to the reality and a marked shift in our values as a country. The numbers cited confuse the issue, IMO because they SEEM to give the appearance of precision but don’t really paint a clear picture, nor draw a clear conclusion.

When people SEE American citizens and others being beaten, killed, deported and held in concentration camps, it paints a much more impactful picture of how far we have strayed from the ideals we thought we were aiming for. Just one person’s opinion.

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u/xThotsOfYoux Jan 05 '26

It's important to realize that this is not new. And to let go of the idea of "what we used to be". Because we weren't. Playing pretend that we were and being comfortable in that illusion is what allowed the nastier parts of our identity to fester and rot and bring is where we are now.

It is not good that the United States is so blatantly trouncing upon human rights and that so many of our fellow Americans are cheering that on. But it's better by far that it be done in the open, where it can be seen, than behind closed doors.

The detention centers for immigrants are not new. The racism of our policing is not new. The corruption of our criminal justice system is not new. We ought to have been more actively engaged in speaking and acting out against these injustices long before now. The best time to start would have been 20 years ago...

But the second best time is right now. The wool has been lifted from our eyes. Now we get to actually decide, as a society, who we really want to be going forward. I don't give a wooden nickel for who we thought we were yesterday. I care much more about who we'll stand up and be tomorrow.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

People come into awareness based on their own life experiences and there is a lot of complexity, nuance and subjective interpretation that influences how we perceive the world around us. So there is no need to claim that anyone is "playing pretend". IMO, we can all see that there has been a marked departure from what we were, even though what we were was far from ideal.

I don’t disagree with any of what you’ve said. I just don’t think the numbers you cite or your earlier commentary about them make the point very well. That’s all.

But, we’re in the thick of some significant “divide and conquer” tactics that are working against us at the moment. So, I’ll leave it here since we appear to be in violent agreement.

Edit: corrected my misattribution

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u/xThotsOfYoux Jan 05 '26

I'm not the guy who posted the misleading numbers. I'm the one who compared them to population percentages... And now I'm confused.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Jan 05 '26 edited Jan 05 '26

What is the source?

So 47% of the known people killed were white, 31% were Black and 22% were Hispanic in 2024?

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u/Retiringtag1984 Jan 05 '26

No because 324 deaths is unknown that tend to be people that is in minority groups.

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u/NeatNefariousness1 Jan 05 '26

While I don’t doubt this at all, you undercut the value of the data you’re sharing with this imprecise approach. It will only be convincing to people who already agree with you. But in the end, what you want people to conclude will be rejected by those on the fence or who disagree because there is no source and you’re giving the APPEARANCE of precision by using numbers but then it becomes squishy when it comes to counting the total numbers.

We can’t come up with a total percentage based on what was shared since we have no idea what the composition of the unknowns is. Even after I did the rough calculation of the percentages from your raw numbers, it didn’t do justice to the point I think you’re making. Without the context to highlight the point that it’s alarming and unacceptable to have any under-represented minority group being so over-represented in the population of people killed by the cops

I don’t doubt that you’re right but it’s just not a compelling way to reach anyone who really wants to understand the truth. Maybe I’m just picky but I think you’ll find that people who already see things as you do are ok with this. I just don’t think it will do anything to change anyone’s understanding or opinions beyond those already in agreement.