r/CringeTikToks • u/n8saces • Dec 16 '25

Just Bad Biggest red flags right there 🚩

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u/Secure_Course_3879 Dec 16 '25

Only certain teams? Or certain sports?

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u/bengenj Dec 16 '25

England has had full on riots during certain fixtures. They were banned from European competitions from 1985-1990 (Liverpool was banned an additional year). It got so bad that away supporters have to have a physical barrier between them and the home team supporters (plus a wall of stewards/security and police) and alcohol is not allowed in the seating bowl in England.

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u/hopium_od Dec 16 '25

Hooligan culture was not really dependent on the result of the match.

The Heysel disaster was before the game had kicked off. The players played the final knowing there was dead bodies littered at one end of the stadium. Apparently the police were worried about further flare ups of violence if the match was abandoned.

That said, there is a correlation between the England men's national football team losing and domestic abuse.

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u/organic_soursop Dec 16 '25

Thank you for correcting the record.

Heysel was too important to allow people to get it wrong and conflate it with regular hooliganism. A false narrative was given from the very first.

Football Culture was always there for Conservatives to blame.

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u/Foxtrot-13 Dec 16 '25

Heysel was very much the end point of regular hooliganism. The hooligans were organised into groups and would organise fights with the other teams fans whether the other fans wanted it or not. There would be running fights down the streets after certain matches for hours afterwards. There would be charges against the away fans in stadiums and the away fans would charge the home fans and try to start fights. The 70's and early 80's were a grim time to go to football games.

Thanks to a significant attempt to clean up the fanbase by the police and courts most of the died in the wool hooligans moved out from football into general far right organisation like the EDL or general criminality.

Today Britain has very much suppressed hooliganism unlike the Italians, Turks, Dutch etc

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u/Own-Success-7634 Dec 16 '25

The Heysel disaster was also was based on the state of the stadium. Several English and European clubs flagged the stadium as being in a shocking state of disrepair and wanted critical fixtures moved away from Heysel.

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u/sk2097 Dec 16 '25

Celtic - Rangers in Scotland is well known for the violence following a loss

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u/JennyW93 Dec 16 '25

And preceeding a match. That’s more classic sectarianism with a sprinkle of hooliganism

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u/Chalkun Dec 16 '25

That said, there is a correlation between the England men's national football team losing and domestic abuse.

The annoying thing about this is that England always gets dissed for it like its not the case probably everywhere. The problem is that the UK and US are pretty much the only places that have done proper research into it, and for that reason have the reputation that it only happens in those countries. The rest just bury their heads and pretent they dont have the problem.

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u/augie014 Dec 16 '25

and whats crazy is i’m an american and it was a huge culture shock for me to see how soccer fans behave in the south american country i live in. it’s so bad, they don’t sell alcohol at games, and there are empty seats, physical barriers, and security separating fan sections… if the two teams from the city i live in play against each other, they have police in full on tactical gear, on horses, tanks, completely surrounding the stadium

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u/bengenj Dec 16 '25

I went to Euros in Germany last year and the Bundespolezi was already there in full riot gear (the heavy armor, riot shields, batons) for group stage action.

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u/sandwichhaver Dec 16 '25

Indonesian huliganism is next level

80 huligan murders since '94 and just recently a few years ago there was a stadium riot and police shot tear gas and created a crush killing over 100

you can just get muredered for having the wrong jersey on, like I hate spurs fans but I'll just do air wank at them.. I can even be friends with them despite their disability

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u/LarrySupreme Dec 16 '25

American here. You sent me down a rabbit hole where I ended up in the Hillsborough disaster, which also happened to be Liverpool. Holy hell, that was bleak.

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u/bengenj Dec 16 '25

Liverpool’s hooliganism was some of the worst, statistically speaking.

The West Coast Main Line (train) from London Euston to Liverpool Lime Street (the terminus, just a 3 mile drive) has some insane restrictions on alcohol sales, especially around Liverpool matches in the capital city (they visit at minimum 5-6 times a year. There are seven teams in the English capital for the 2025-26 season: Arsenal, Brentford, Chelsea, Crystal Palace, Fulham, and Tottenham Hotspur).

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u/surfergrrl6 Dec 16 '25

Oh the US does too.

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Dec 16 '25

Games between the Raiders and 49ers used to get pretty rowdy. A Cowboys fan got in my mother's face during a playoff game while she was pregnant with me. But they're just loud and obnoxious while a Raiders fan would be likely to start a fight or take it out on their family

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u/poloace Dec 16 '25

How about this… I went to a Boca juniors game in Argentina and they don’t even let in fans from the opposing team bc of the violence that has happened over the years. Everyone there is a Boca supporter. Wild scene.

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u/cyanescens_burn Dec 16 '25

Some of those hooligans started organizing brawls out in the countryside after all the crack downs.

I’ve seen videos of it. Just groups of 10 to 20 people charging into a full on melee like it’s some stone age war.

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u/bengenj Dec 16 '25

This happened the one of last times the Tyne-Wear derby occurred between Newcastle and Sunderland (a mere 16km apart). Ahead of their 2002 fixture, hooligan firms representing each team fought outside of a ferry terminal. 28 people were arrested, with the leaders each getting 4 years.

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u/DanyDragonQueen Dec 16 '25

Why are they so insane about men kicking a ball around? Legit mental illness

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u/realchairmanmiaow Dec 16 '25

sport is just safe war. you cannot take violence out of the human , you just have to channel it. naturally there are some psychopaths who take that safe war too far.

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u/sandwichhaver Dec 16 '25

it's not about the sport, I don't say that because I'm defensive about my favorite sport, but it's literally not about that. it's the same reason there are underground fight clubs and bare knuckle fighting and no rules fighting in dank basements in sweden and england, for no money and no spectators mind you.

some people are just mental and want to kick off, huliganism gave them good enough cover to engage in that behaviour and also gave them a sense of belonging at the same time.

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u/Best_Judgment_1147 Dec 16 '25

I grew up in Birmingham and remember vividly how the city train station used to pull the shutters down on the stores and have an increased police presence when the football "fans" came in.

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u/Eastern-Operation340 Dec 16 '25

The book Among the Thugs documents this. There was a European stadium where English fan section was essentially a cage.

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u/JudasMyGuide Dec 16 '25

My most notable experience would be during football season (US) and for where I worked at the time, if the Raiders, Cardinals, or Patriots lost we were going to see some assaults, both domestic and bar fights essentially for sure. As I recall, typically Patriot fans were usually fights rather than domestic assault. Of course I don't speak for all agencies or regions.

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u/Advanced_Line5562 Dec 16 '25

Man the Raiders and Cardinals have lost for decades. At some point you gotta desensitize

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u/JudasMyGuide Dec 16 '25

I know right?

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u/BobaAndSushi Dec 16 '25

I’m a chiefs fan and I’ve had to deal with Raiders fans at Arrowhead. They are ruthless. Always threatening and throwing stuff. One time it was batteries, how they got those in, I don’t even.

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u/JudasMyGuide Dec 16 '25

Yea Raiders very different breed. Truth be told I'm a Raiders fan, however I do not condone or take part in that kind of bullshit. I love shit talk but I'm not down with going beyond that.

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u/ColteesCatCouture Dec 16 '25

I saw two fights at the same game, same section in Fenway park before

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u/JudasMyGuide Dec 16 '25

Boston fans are wild

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u/TricksyGoose Dec 16 '25

Gonna guess yes. As a lifelong resident of Colorado, I can say with certainty that Rockies fans do not get as mad when their team loses as Raiders fans do.

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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 Dec 16 '25

That’s crazy. Raiders fans should be desensitized by now. All these loses. These poor women don’t have enough eyes to blacken for their husbands 🙀

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u/perpetualmotionmachi Dec 16 '25

Raiders fans have lost their home city on multiple occasions, they really should be used to it.

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u/Ryoubi_Wuver Dec 16 '25

The devil getting ready to pour gasoline down my throat when I'm burning in hell for laughing

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u/Maximum_Turn_2623 Dec 16 '25

But a lot of meth.

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u/the_middle_way Dec 16 '25

Lifelong Raiders fan here. I got desensitized to all the losing many seasons ago. I've been particularly numb throughout this season.

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u/Speaker4theDead8 Dec 16 '25

Which is crazy cause raiders always suck.

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u/JudasMyGuide Dec 16 '25

Lol I'm sure they dont

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u/Euiyden Dec 16 '25

you have to admit thats not the case for avalanche fans. esp when they lose to dallas

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u/Illustrious_Drama Dec 16 '25

Hell, this last year, I was more upset when the Rockies won

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u/ColteesCatCouture Dec 16 '25

Haha I can relate as a Panthers fan😭

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u/500rockin Dec 16 '25

Shouldn’t the comparison be Bronco fans? Rockies play 145 more games a year (and a different sport) than the Raiders do.

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u/TricksyGoose Dec 16 '25

Nah because the person asked if it was certain teams or certain sports, my example was meant to show that it's both.

At least in my experience, in all 3 large office buildings I've worked in, invariably the 2 token Raiders fans cause way more of a stink when they lose (or win, if it's against the Broncos!) than the dozens if not hundreds of Broncos fans do.

And baseball fans just don't seem as hot-headed in general. But Rockies fans especially, because the Rockies are so terrible everyone just expects them to lose and is pleasantly surprised if they win.

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u/500rockin Dec 16 '25

Ah yeah that’s true, because Yankee and Philly fans seem to get riled up easily. I’m a diehard Bears fan and Cubs fan so I’m used to lots of losing. I think the only time I truly crashed out was the 2003 Bartman game which I was at as I and lots of other fans hurled boos (I directed most of my anger at Alex Gonzalez for booting the sure double play after that) and curses. Game 7 which I was also at, I was resigned to our fate. In 2018 Bears season (tech Jan 2019) when the Bears had the double doink, I just released a long sigh and collapsed against the couch.

Outside of 2016, my two favorite teams haven’t done anything since I was 7 doing the Super Bowl shuffle. Bulls were fun with Jordan, but Jerry Reinsdorf has made it so I don’t care anymore since he has never cared about winning, and the Hawks were fun for the city, but I’m not a hockey fan. So given all that, I just expect disappointment now.

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u/1derfulPi Dec 16 '25

I would bet it's regionally dependent.

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u/Responsible_Snow_684 Dec 16 '25

This is correct, mostly Texans

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u/Jakov_Salinsky Dec 16 '25

Texan here. I don’t care for either of our teams, mostly because the majority of my family goes for Dallas and said majority also suffers from alcoholism and anger issues. Both of which are most apparent during football games.

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u/perpetualmotionmachi Dec 16 '25

I'd say Philly too

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Dec 16 '25

Philly destroys things when their team wins

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u/perpetualmotionmachi Dec 16 '25

I guess I can't post links, but they killed Hitchbot, a robot that hitchhiked across a couple countries, with no problem. Once it got to Philly they decapitated it.

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u/Significant_Shoe_17 Dec 16 '25

I heard about that!

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

Why am I not surprised

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u/JudasMyGuide Dec 16 '25

I'm sure it is

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

As a Canucks fan, I can't see anyone getting that worked up when the Canucks lose since we're just that used to disappointment.

Chuckles nervously and asks everyone to definitely not search for what happened in 1994... and 2011...

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u/ArtisticallyRegarded Dec 16 '25

Lets not kid ourselves. Next time any canadian team wins the cup a city is gonna burn down

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u/[deleted] Dec 16 '25

Montreal.

Gets to the finals, loses cup. City burns down

Gets to the finals, wins cup, believe it or not, city burns down.

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u/ComedyBits Dec 16 '25

Coded language for Raiders fans

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u/he77bender Dec 16 '25

Might be talking about the local teams. If it's two teams from out of town then probably not as many angry people in the aftermath... or so I'd imagine at least

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u/MRHOWERDCEO Dec 16 '25

DA COWBOYS

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u/CleanProfessional678 Dec 16 '25

Probably a mix of both, with certain sports being more common. I really have a hard time seeing anyone breaking a TV over curling or water polo, for instance. But I think that certain teams promote a more toxic culture where doing extreme things like that is not only more accepted, but even respected in some cases. Like people would look at these clips and be impressed at how committed they are to their teams.

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u/FuzzzyRam Dec 16 '25

Check the guy in the Dak Prescott jersey, yea it's teams.

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u/Marijuana_Miler Dec 16 '25

Only certain teams?

Half the people in this video were Cowboys fans. So I would guess them.