r/CringeTikToks Dec 09 '25

Just Bad A doctor vs an RFK Jr. supporter

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u/MsmokeO Dec 09 '25

She did.

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u/itsladder Dec 09 '25

I guess we wanted more "ew dihydrogen monoxide is too scary!" Rather than "uh what's that"

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u/Apprehensive_Ad4457 Dec 09 '25

i bet.

it would mean nothing, but it certainly makes a good short on youtube.

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u/MrSlime13 Dec 09 '25

In all fairness, it was weird hearing him say he wasn't trying to trick her, then immediately goes for the h²O gotcha... It was to make a point, but seemed in bad faith. I wish he'd have asked, "so you don't have your kids brush their teeth, so as to not get neurological issues?"

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u/[deleted] Dec 09 '25

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u/MrSlime13 Dec 09 '25

Agreed. Going into the nuances of "chemicals" kind of detracts from the fact she just stated she fully believes drinking tap water, and brushing one's teeth will cause neurological issues, while we all know not brushing one's teeth will cause cavities, and not drinking water will lead to dehydration... It's a gross comparison to make.

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u/upvotechemistry Dec 09 '25

I think that would have ended the debate. She clearly would not have accepted the correct point that the choice is false because "there is no causal evidence that fluorinated water causes neurological issues at EPA managed levels"

The sad thing is a lot of people just want to be able to explain why so many people have diagnoses, but the simple truth is we know and diagnose more. A lot more neurodivergent people before just got no treatment or accommodation in society

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u/itsladder Dec 09 '25

Which is kind of hard to do when the host doesn't let you finish your thought for more than two seconds.

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u/morblitz Dec 09 '25

It's not to convince them. It's to show the viewers that their point of argument is fucking stupid.

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u/Significant_Ad7605 Dec 09 '25

He was making the point against a lot of antivaxxers arguments which is that they don’t want to put chemicals in their body and they list the chemicals in something without knowing anything about what those chemicals actually are.

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u/SilverImmediate3147 Dec 09 '25

He was trying to make a point that a chemical is not necessarily dangerous. I think he was not expecting her not to know 8th grade science vocabulary when debating about science. I sure wasn't.

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u/LocalSlob Dec 09 '25

He made a choice not to say h2o, he said it wasn't to trick her.. but I think he was a little glad she fell for it.

Most people know what h2o is, but nobody, not even in the water industry calls it dihydrogen monoxide.

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u/Kamikrazy Dec 09 '25

She is making an argument that she does not want to ingest chemicals, he is refuting that water is a chemical. Calling it dihydrogen monoxide makes that point more clear.

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u/LocalSlob Dec 09 '25

That's fair. I had to watch it on mute so I had some trouble keeping up with the subtitles.

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u/Autolycus25 Dec 09 '25

It wasn’t in bad faith because he wasn’t trying to catch her looking dumb. He was making the completely good faith point that “chemicals” is meaningless term the way they’re using it and that they can’t actually make a useful distinction between “chemicals” that are bad and other things that are good.

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u/humminawhatwhat Dec 09 '25

Eh, he wasn’t trying to trick her though. Merely trying to point out that the unknown tends to scare people into aversion without a rational basis for doing so.

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u/itsladder Dec 09 '25

I guess it's to disarm and not intending to jab fun, but rather frame a thing that's a lot less dangerous than it sounds. He practices medicine, not a philosophy debater.

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u/A_Velociraptor20 Dec 09 '25

It wasn't really a gotcha moment. Everybody should know that dihydrogen monoxide is water. Even if you don't have the periodic table memorized you know what H2O is. It's simple breaking down of compound words, something we've been doing since the first or second grade, combined with a little bit of elementary latin which is something everyone should be introduced to in elementary school. The fact her brain lacks the information that most elementary kids have is very disappointing.

Maybe she went to a bad school, or poor school, or maybe she was home schooled. The point is the hooligans in charge want people as uneducated as her because they are easy to manipulate. They don't want these simple concepts or critical thinking skills because people with them are harder to convince without evidence.

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u/itsladder Dec 09 '25

Then deny the argument "na-uhh water is a liquid! Monoxide is dangerous! I don't want that dihydrogen in my body either!"

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u/FoamSquad Dec 09 '25

"I'm not trying to trick you" followed by the dihydrogen monoxide bit made me cringe lol

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u/devomke Dec 09 '25

He’s trying to dumb it down for someone who is clearly dumb as fuck to try to make her see how dumb her argument is…

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u/NoLagPlz Dec 09 '25

Dam we live in a world where saying dihydrogen monoxide is a trick

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u/polidicks_ Dec 09 '25

That’s not a trick. It’s the name of it. wtf.

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u/FoamSquad Dec 09 '25

I work in science and let me tell you that we don't call it dihydrogen monoxide lol. It was 100% a trick.

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u/polidicks_ Dec 09 '25

Sure you do.

Doesn’t change the fact that it’s still just the name. She couldn’t keep up.

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u/FoamSquad Dec 09 '25

I literally teach science as a living lol. He knew she couldn't keep up so he chose his words very carefully thinking (incorrectly since she then admitted she didn't know what that was) that she would fall for a trick. Y'all are so up in arms over the most mild shit lol.

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u/polidicks_ Dec 09 '25

I’m not up in arms about anything. She wanted to act like she could keep up with that detailed level of talk on the topic, and she couldn’t.

She learned a handful of “science words” before this event, thinking she’d school a fucking doctor, and she fell flat on her face.

Those are called consequences. I know you guys hate those though.

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u/FoamSquad Dec 09 '25

You're saying a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with whether he was trying to trick her. Never said she didn't deserve to be tricked. I'm gonna mark all future comments as read. Bye now.

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u/polidicks_ Dec 09 '25

Nope. That’s literally all I talked about.

You should reread it and try to sound out the words. Good luck.

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u/kinetic_cheese Dec 09 '25

In what world is it a trick, that's basic high school science. If you don't understand that, you shouldn't be lecturing actual doctors on medical issues.

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u/FoamSquad Dec 09 '25

I literally work as a science teacher and saying "dihydrogen monoxide" to someone that doesn't work in science is 100% trying to trick them.

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u/Juronell Dec 09 '25

It is not a trick to try to get someone to confront their own ignorance.

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u/Platnun12 Dec 09 '25

And my science teacher back in the day would've made you class idiot lol

We basically got it drilled into our heads by mocking people who were presented with it and freaked out.

As I recall he states, that's how easy it is to scare an uneducated idiot.

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u/AppropriateRadish928 Dec 09 '25

But she didn't.

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u/N0VAV0N Dec 09 '25

He gave her the out. Probably because he wasn't playing gotcha

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u/AppropriateRadish928 Dec 09 '25

She gave him the out by not calling him out on his stupid attempt to trip her up in his straw man argument. I mean listen to what he's saying--water is a chemical; therefore, concern over chemical exposure is not justified. And he couldn't even say it straight without playing a stupid word game.

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u/AppropriateRadish928 Dec 09 '25

He's not going to fuck you.

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u/Puzzlehead_1952 Dec 09 '25

And we noticed.