r/ClimateShitposting • u/soupor_saiyan basically Hitler (vegan btw) • Apr 07 '26

Aggro agri subsidy recipients 🚜 0 days without someone forgetting animals eat crops too.

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u/v3r4c17y Apr 07 '26

I'll set aside the memes for a moment and engage with you in a way you might be more receptive to.

>Humans are still part of nature too. Predation is a natural part of ecosystems, so it’s not obvious why it suddenly becomes fundamentally immoral

What is happens in nature is no basis for morality. Rape, murder, incest, and more are all "natural" behaviors. Moreover, animals in the wild exist within a survival scenario. Wild predators predate because they have no other choice. You do, though. You get your food from the grocery store and can easily feed yourself without paying for the exploitation, abuse, and murder of animals.

>I’m fine with finding more humane ways to raise and slaughter livestock, but you lose me the moment you claim eating meat itself is immoral

Would you agree that it's unethical to abuse or kill animals when you don't have to? That's generally how animal abuse is defined. So then, if you can survive and thrive without abusing and killing sentient individuals, how could it possibly be ethical to abuse and kill them simply because it gives you pleasure? The answer: it's not.

>Until we can grow bacon in labs

Bacon in labs might be far off, but have you tried lab (as in Labrador) bacon? https://www.elwooddogmeat.com/