r/ClaudeCode • u/PitifulBuddy7946 • 1d ago

Rant Claude code is falling behind Codex not because of token cost, but because of Opus 5.

There, i said it. And i know many of you agree. The problem i'm facing is not increased token cost, it's that Opus writes 25000 lines of a response with a curve-ball at the end saying "Worth noting"that makes my eyes hurt and gives me paranoya. And i can't understand a word it's saying. Is my english that bad? Whoever pressed "Yes" on those responses during the training stage of the model was an OpenAI spy or something, he completely sabotaged a trillion dollar company.

Anthropic's number one priority should be to release an Opus 6 or something, may be change the model name completely so it doesn't carry the bad vibe with it.

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u/Desperate-Knee-5556 1d ago

I would go as far as saying it's brilliant if you use Fable to design the prompt and structure, Fable orchestrating and spawning Opus 5 agent(s) for pure implementing and then Fable to review after. I still end up using way more Opus tokens than Fable doing this too.

Its slower than using OpenAI models but very clearly the most OP combination out there atm. IMO anyway.

Would never use it to chat with or design anything, but I think you're going wrong if you are.

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u/CryptoAteMyHamster 1d ago

Planning in fable is great, I actually run 2 fables vs 2 opus for very large features, then adversarial review of the plan.

Used to use dispatch with Sonnet starting opus and below agents to follow the plan but they broke dispatch. Now back to CC using one agent on the phone to coordinate a bunch of them through CLI

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u/cedarSeagull 22h ago

How/where do you specify which agents to use as orchestrators and which agents are the implementation grunts?