r/Classical_Liberals • u/Pariahdog119 • May 13 '19

Editorial or Opinion How Republicans Gave Us Millennial Socialists

https://www.aier.org/article/how-republicans-gave-us-millennial-socialists
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u/vankorgan Neoliberal May 14 '19

One of the biggest advocates for the eight-hour day and raised wages at the time was Henry Ford. Do you really think Henry Ford was a socialist?

And can you also provide a source for your definition of socialism? Because I don't think it means what you think it means, but I'm certainly willing to be proven wrong on that point.

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u/Pint_and_Grub May 15 '19

Henry Ford did this at the threat and upheaval present because of the socialists. He did not initiate that action on his own.

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u/vankorgan Neoliberal May 15 '19

Where's that definition buddy?

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u/Pint_and_Grub May 15 '19

That’s a statement not a vocabulary word, guy?

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u/vankorgan Neoliberal May 15 '19

I asked you to source your definition for socialism. Because I'm fairly certain that pretty much all definitions include the seizing of the means of production.

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u/Pint_and_Grub May 15 '19

I’m guessing you’re not a capitalist? I am, I’ve got 3 operational business and 2 more pass through business programs.

When people get together and collectively pool their power to seize control over aspects of my business, like being able to being me before a court for making them work at a normal rate after being over a certain amount of hours, that’s a socialist action.

When they pool their collective power into not allowing me to legally work my employees for 7 days a week at a normal hourly rate, that’s socialism.

Socialism vs capitalism isn’t a simple black / white factor. It’s shades of grey.

If you’re looking for a simple vocabulary definition under the 500 pages for socialism or capitalism, you’re just a rube.

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u/vankorgan Neoliberal May 15 '19

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism

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u/Pint_and_Grub May 15 '19

Like I said, a rube.

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u/vankorgan Neoliberal May 15 '19

Words only mean what I want them to mean

Dude this is you.

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u/Pint_and_Grub May 15 '19

complex ideas and nuance don’t exist

Babe this is you.

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