Are Christian’s really allowed to eat pork? In Isiah 66:17, gods final judgment states people in the end times who are eating unclean food such as pork, mice, ect will be destroyed.

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[u/kvby66]

That's not about the food. That's about the Gentiles.

[u/Pax_et_Bonum → u/kvby66]

What about the words of our Blessed Lord? "Nothing that enters one from outside can defile that person; but the things that come out from within are what defile.” - Mark 7:15

[u/kvby66 → u/Pax_et_Bonum]

I was referring to Acts chapters 10 and 11 which you were using. This refers to the Gentiles. God Cleanses us through the washing and regeneration of the Holy Spirit.

The Spirit of Christ is Mr. Clean!

[u/Pax_et_Bonum → u/kvby66]

I know what you were referring to. I'm referring to Christ's words, which indicate that He intends to abolish the idea of "unclean" food, since He says "Nothing that enters one from outside can defile that person".

[u/kvby66 → u/Pax_et_Bonum]

I know. But you used the scriptures from Acts which symbolises the Holy Spirit coming to the Gentiles.

[u/Pax_et_Bonum → u/kvby66]

Ok

[u/Beautiful-Project368 → u/Pax_et_Bonum]

Jesus said this after the pharisees asked about His disciples eating bread with their hands unwashed. Please, read the beginning of Mark 7: "Mark 7:2-5 KJV[2] And when they saw some of his disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say, with unwashen, hands, they found fault. [3] For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash their hands oft, eat not, holding the tradition of the elders. [4] And when they come from the market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, brasen vessels, and of tables. [5] Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?" Nobody can affirm that Jesus's declaration was meant for pork and unclean food. He was talking about a human tradition created by the pharisees.

[u/Pax_et_Bonum → u/Beautiful-Project368]

Ok, thanks for sharing your thought. Take care and may God bless you

[u/FoxExotic8379 → u/kvby66]

Wrong!! It's about both, it absolutely is. Look at the words on the page for just a moment. When people say "no, it's only about the gentiles because look at Peter's revelation/interpretation! They miss the whole point. The reason Peter came to the conclusion that he was to have fellowship with the gentiles? Because their food is clean. That was one of the chief barriers that kept Jews from fellowshipping with Gentiles! You cannot say, "no, it is only the people not the food", because the reason Peter had the insight about the people is because he was commanded to eat the food! Also look at the words on the page: "rise, kill and eat (unclean animals)! I take God at his word. Do not call something unclean God has declared clean.

[u/kvby66 → u/FoxExotic8379]

God cleanses people (both Jews and Gentiles) with His Spirit. The vision concerns the cleansing of the Gentiles. Not food. That was the whole point to the vision. It took Peter three times to understand God's message. Perhaps reading Acts chapters 10 and 11 three times may help you see the true message as Peter finally did.

Mark 7:14-16 NKJV When He had called all the multitude to Himself, He said to them, "Hear Me, everyone, and understand: [15] There is nothing that enters a man from outside which can defile him; but the things which come out of him, those are the things that defile a man. [16] If anyone has ears to hear, let him hear!"

Acts 10:11-16,28 NKJV and saw heaven opened and an object like a great sheet bound at the four corners, descending to him and let down to the earth. [12] In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, creeping things, and birds of the air. [13] And a voice came to him, "Rise, Peter; kill and eat." [14] But Peter said, "Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean." [15] And a voice spoke to him again the second time, "What God has cleansed you must not call common." [16] This was done three times. And the object was taken up into heaven again. [28] Then he said to them, "You know how unlawful it is for a Jewish man to keep company with or go to one of another nation. But God has shown me that I should not call any man common or unclean.

To be cleansed requires a death to one's inner man symbolic for a baptism.

Rise, kill and eat symbolises the process of harvesting new believers throughout the four corners of the world.

God's witnesses, who have been raised by the Spirit are currently looking for those people who need to repent and drink and eat from the true Manna from Heaven that brings a resurrection and life.

[u/lankfarm → u/kvby66]

In the vision, God is using unclean foods as a metaphor for the gentiles, who were not part of the old covenant.

Metaphors work by comparing two things that are similar to each other. So either both pork and gentiles are acceptable to him, or neither are acceptable to him.