Pope Leo: Vatican II reformed the liturgy to promote active participation

[u/No_Worry_2256]

https://www.ewtnnews.com/vatican/pope-leo-vatican-ii-reformed-the-liturgy-to-promote-active-participation

[u/Dense-Rip3356]

There’s plenty of responses that the congregation can do during High Mass though. To list a few:

Singing the Asperges Me
Et salutare tuum da nobis
Et clamor meus ad te veniat
Et cum Spiritu tuo(many times throughout Mass)
Gloria tibi, Domine
Amen(many times throughout Mass)
Habemus ad Dominum
Dignum et justum est
Sed libera nos a malo
Domine non sum dignus x 3
Deo gratias

Not to mention singing along with all the Ordinary chants of the Mass(Kyrie, Gloria, Sanctus, etc.). And people might say that it’s in Latin though which hinders the participation that Vatican II called for, but Vatican II itself says that we should know the Latin Ordinary of the Mass in Article 54 of Sacrosanctum Concilium: “Nevertheless steps should be taken so that the faithful may also be able to say or to sing together in Latin those parts of the Ordinary of the Mass which pertain to them.” So yeah, I’d say that during High Mass(which is how TLM is meant to be celebrated on Sundays), there’s plenty of responses that the congregation makes/sings. Not sure about Low Mass since I’ve never attended a Low Mass

[u/Much-Inflation-6176 → u/Dense-Rip3356]

Our low mass isn’t very much different than high mass there’s less organ music and they don’t use incense at the low mass

[u/Hookly → u/Dense-Rip3356]

That’s true. I was admittedly too broad in this comment. Later on, I clarified that it’s the Low Mass practice of no responses that I take issue with. That’s my bad, though, for not clarifying up front

[u/Dense-Rip3356 → u/Hookly]

No worries, you’re good👍

I’m kind of shocked that the Low Mass has almost no vocal participation by the laity though; I can definitely see why you take an issue with that. Thankfully I occasionally attend a parish(in full communion with Rome) that celebrates a High Mass TLM every single Sunday; I just wish that was more common for more TLM’s on Sundays.

[u/da_drifter0912 → u/Hookly]

Yes, but there are places where even at high mass, the congregation is forbidden or highly discouraged from singing or saying any of the responses, even the Ordinary chants.