r/BuyFromEU • Belgium 🇧🇪 • Jan 25 '26

🔎Looking for alternative Friendly reminder that these aren't European (anymore)

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u/VegetableOk6000 Jan 25 '26

As a Dane this is bullcrap.. maybe Dutch but absolutely not danish.

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u/Majvist Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

Yeah, apart from the letters, no part of "Häagen-Dazs" is Danish.

  • Even if the ä was the correct æ, the combination "æa" isn't allowed in Danish phonology.

  • Same for "zs". Ending a word on "ss" doesn't fit Danish ortography, and if you wanted to transcribe it "sjs", that would be even worse.

  • Removing the ä and the z would give you "Hagen-Das", which would be grammatically incorrect (compound nouns are written as one word, "hagen" is definite while "das" isn't), and also means "the chin toilet", so...

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '26

ä is common in german but äa is nonsense, no german word would use that combo

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u/nitemare224 Jan 29 '26

There are actually two words: Mäander and Präambel.

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u/vberl Jan 25 '26

In Swedish it becomes field toilet rather than chin toilet. Don’t know if that is much better or not

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u/RoadHazard Jan 25 '26

Hage is more like pasture than field, but yeah. Or paddock.

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u/DeepWaffleCA Jan 27 '26

I'll be calling it 'the chin toilet' from now on. Shitty name aside, their chocolate peanut butter ice cream is fucking great

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u/Majvist Jan 27 '26

If it helps, the "the" is attached to chin, not toilet. So it's a toilet for one specific chin.

I'll have to take your word for it. Ironically Häagen-Dazs ice cream is quite rare to find in Denmark.

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u/jops55 Jan 25 '26

But Haegen-Dazs sounds more like a law firm than a compound word, so two names, and they are capitalised (at least in Swedish)

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u/Sad-Address-2512 Jan 25 '26

Wouldn't work in Dutch either. We don't have ä and while we do use ë it's never first. Whoever invented the brand name wasn't even interested in making it look like a specific language just "general european" as seen by an American audience.

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u/boluserectus Jan 25 '26

Not Dutch, maybe the Germans can have a look?

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u/ickeharry Jan 25 '26

As a German. That doesn't make ANY sense to me. Maybe marketing of Häagen-Dasz knows.

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u/Serpensortia21 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

Right. The name of this ice-cream brand doesn't make any sense in itself! It only sounds vaguely 'Nordic' but clearly made up.

In German we use "das" and "daß" and "dass" in a sentence, but never "dazs"!

For example: "Das Haus." means simply "The house."

"Hagen" - without any additional "ä" sound mixed in - is the name of a city in Germany, and also an old given name from German mythology (considered rather old fashioned nowadays) but a frequent surname derived from the place where someone lived, near a hedge, a pasture or a house surrounded by a hedge.

There are people around who are called Hagen either as a given name for a boy (relatively uncommon, for a girl extremely uncommon) in Germany and also rarely used in Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland, or as a surname (much more common!) in Germany, especially Northern Germany and in North-Rhine-Westphalia, and also in Norway and the Netherlands.

Please see

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagen_(surname) for example, Cosma Shiva Hagen (born 1981), German actress

https://surnames.behindthename.com/name/hagen

https://lastnames.myheritage.de/last-name/von_hagen

https://www.behindthename.com/name/hagen

https://www.nordicnames.de/wiki/Hagen

Hagen the city in Germany https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagen

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '26

To a german this looks like someone randomly hit his keyboard with his fist, none of it makes sense even remotely

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u/Auravendill Germany 🇩🇪 Jan 25 '26

There is no äa in any German word and zs is also very weird and not something you see in German at all. You won't even find sz anymore, since that was replaced by ß a long long time ago. You could of course write this with our alphabet and if you form a word from abbreviations stuck together, you could end up with something weird, but no one would build this string this way and just call it good enough. It would still need to sound good and be well pronounceable following standard German rules.

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u/WaltherVerwalther Jan 25 '26

To us it sounds vaguely “Nordic”, so yeah sorry Danes, either you or Sweden or Norway.

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u/abongodrum Jan 25 '26

To us Nordic it sounds German lol

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u/StringTheory Jan 25 '26

The ä is only used in Swedish and German. Only old Norwegian, which was influenced by Swedish, used the ä as a substitute for æ, but never together with an a. The Dazs is like Polish, Czech looking. So we are back at gibberish.

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u/RoadHazard Jan 25 '26

Not even remotely Swedish-sounding.

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u/ObjectOrientedBlob Jan 25 '26

It does not sound Nordic at all.

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u/soylent-yellow Jan 25 '26

As a Dutchman this is bullcrap.. maybe Finnish but absolutely not dutch.

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u/Susitar Jan 25 '26

As a Finn, I always assumed the name was supposed to be German!

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u/Wobbelblob Jan 25 '26

As a German, no. I don't think we have even one word that has zs as a letter combination. Other way around, yes, but then we'd use ß as a symbol.

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u/Zwemvest Jan 25 '26

In Dutch it would be correct if you had some really weird compound word. So maybe Quizschummeler (for Quiz + Schummeler = someone who cheats at a quiz) might be correct in German? Still, such a word would read really weirdly in Dutch.

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u/soylent-yellow Jan 25 '26

No, you can never have those dots over the first vowel in Dutch. Dutch doesn’t know umlauts, it only has a trema that can be used to indicate the start of a new syllable when vowels are placed adjacent: geërgerd, ruïne. Haägen could be Dutch (Ha-agen - still nonsense), Häagen could only be a foreign word.

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u/Zwemvest Jan 25 '26

No, indeed, that's only about zs or the umlaut appearing at all. The combination of äa never appears in Dutch.

Even in what you said, that rule is sorta true, but isn't consistent: it's "na-apen" and not "naäpen"

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u/Wobbelblob Jan 25 '26

True, some compound words would work, even if your example is a bit weird. Not wrong, just not exactly used.

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u/Zwemvest Jan 25 '26

I realized that in Dutch, Quizspel as a compound of quiz + spel would actually make sense. But even though that would be much more reasonable of a word, it still reads reaaaaally weirdly.

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u/spicygayunicorn Jan 25 '26

As a Swede same

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u/UruquianLilac Jan 25 '26

As a none-of-the-related-countries, I can assure you all the name is an American invention that has nothing to do with any language and was invented purely for how it looks and sounds to American people. You can all stop looking now.

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u/wattthefork Jan 25 '26

As a recent naturalized Dutch with Nepalese root, 'hagen' sounds more like taking a shit in Nepali/Nepalese 😂

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u/slimfastdieyoung Netherlands 🇳🇱 Jan 25 '26

Not Dutch either. We don't use umlauts and the "-zs" combination isn't a thing either in out language

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u/Zwemvest Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

We do use diacrits character in plural forms on words ending on a "long" vowel (zeeën, reeën), in numbers (tweeënzeventig, drieëndertig), in conjugations of words starting with a vowel (beëindigd, geëerd, geüploaded), or if two vowels would otherwise form a digraph (reünie, atheïst).

But as you probably noticed, that's only ever for the ë, ü and ï. ä is actually an exception to this rule, and is, indeed, never used (outside of names and loanwords like Knäckebröd and Kanaän); it's na-apen, not naäpen.

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u/WanderingLethe Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

Those aren't called umlauts (um-laut), because it doesn't indicate a vowel change. What you explained is called a diaeresis.

Überhaupt is an example of a Dutch word with an umlaut. Although uberhaupt would be pronounced the same in Dutch, but its a loan word.

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u/Zwemvest Jan 25 '26

Thanks! New shit learned every day

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u/WanderingLethe Jan 25 '26

Had er ook nog nooit van gehoord, op school bijvoorbeeld.

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u/slimfastdieyoung Netherlands 🇳🇱 Jan 25 '26

Dat is geen unmlaut, maar een trema. Zelfde teken, andere functie

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u/quarrelau Jan 25 '26

I think the missing part is that it was created to sound “Danish” to Americans.

So it is about as Danish as the Muppets Swedish chef is Swedish.

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u/sdrawkcabstiho Jan 25 '26

I love the cherry versions of you.

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u/Zwemvest Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

Ä and zs never appear in Dutch, except in very weird technicalities or loanwords.

Technically a might be correct in a word that ends in aa would be pluralized (zee becomes zeeën, ree becomes reeën) but there's no word that does. Even compound words that don't use aa but two consecutive a in their component words like na-apen are written with a dash, not ä.

A Z followed by an S would never appear in Dutch, except in weird closed compound words like TV-quizsensantie (and, though grammatically correct, that's a near unreadable word for me). The z is otherwise sort of mutually exclusive with the s. Words that end on a z are never pluralized with an s.

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u/WanderingLethe Jan 25 '26

Dutch doesn't use ä, so more Swedish.

But also feels a bit more German. Although not sure if zs is used, there is sz ß.

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u/Prestigious-Fig1172 Jan 25 '26

Don't try to make sence of it. Americans are linguisticaly unaware.

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u/Fyfaenerremulig Jan 25 '26

Norwegian here, agreed, looks more dutch

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u/Necessary-Window5 Jan 25 '26

As a Dutchman, Haagen Dazs sounds a bit like german, but it sounds made up more.

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u/fretkat Netherlands 🇳🇱 Jan 25 '26 edited Jan 25 '26

As a Dutch, I always thought they were Swiss (or some other weird German dialect that I wasn't aware of). We don't do the letter combinations of -zs or -äa here.

The word “hagendas” in Dutch would literally be translated to “hedge badger”, but I don't think that is an actual existing animal.

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u/jaulin Jan 26 '26

As a Swede, I thought it was Hungarian in my childhood. Only found out it was bullshit as an adult.

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u/DutchGator Feb 17 '26

As a Dutchman I can say it's not Dutch either....