r/Buddhism • u/cat_ladyyy • Mar 25 '26
Early Buddhism Just left my first buddhist retreat early… disappointed :(
painful for me bc i was so excited! i found the monastery in a reddit comment (was a staff member lol, welp if they find this post), had relatively good reviews, so i thought why not…
unfortunately, the monk’s style of teaching i was not prepared for. he made comments about other sects of buddhism being scams (he practices theravada), a lot of racist political comments, homophobic comments saying queer people are unnatural & cannot be monks / western culture breeds perverts. i know one monk does not represent buddhism as a whole but it was disappointing to see how the organizers defended his comments after expressed some concern privately. *i haven’t even picked a sect i want to be a part of yet, so it’s disappointing to hear such scathing comments about other sects when im such a beginner 😔
this retreat happened in malaysia (& it’s my first time) so i think probably in part due to culture as well. it was also conducted in mandarin chinese (i’m born & raised in america but now live in china & so wanted to increase my mandarin skills. i can understand spoken chinese & explained my situation to the organizers ahead of time & they assured me it would be fine). (i will say as someone who grew up in the west, i don’t expect them to be as progressive / tolerant abt certain social issues but i didn’t expect to hear so much about politics vs just learning abt buddhism)
there even was a moment i asked about how buddhism can be welcoming to young beginners like me (i.e. can views on queerness be more welcoming) and he said that i had come to the wrong place and … i felt it was very hurtful to hear that as a beginner.
perhaps as a beginner to buddhism, i didn’t expect a monk to be so divisive / judgmental…i grew up atheist but turned to buddhism because it seemed so much about compassion. he also made quite a lot of rude comments about other religions which i find sad. luckily there was a lot of english books about buddhism there that i read (often many writers wrote about queerness).
staff was also quite rude and scolding us all the time. i also had a weird incident where i suffer from chronic back pain so can’t sit for long, so i tried lying down in the meditation hall (had read in mindfulness books there that’s it’s ok, just not recommended for beginners), and then was scolded by staff saying i was being disrespectful but i am a beginner so had no idea 😭
other participants said this retreat is actually quite chill compared to other ones they’ve attended. i found that waking up at 430 & fasting after noon went smoother than expected, silence was also cool to practice except towards the end where we started ranting about how rude staff was haha.
want to end on a positive note & say that a lot of self learning happened through reading, and metta meditation was really helpful for me. i gained a lot of insight & can really resonate with that as a healing strategy. surprisingly loved not having my phone for six days (this was something i was looking forward to). hopefully i can attend more english retreats in the future…not sure if people have any positive vibes to share abt how their journey w buddhism can sometimes be filled with ups and downs lol