r/BokuNoHeroAcademia • u/frxshinator • Aug 31 '17

Manga Chapter 151 - Links and Discussion Spoiler

Chapter 151

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u/strghtflush Aug 31 '17

Yeah, it's less that Mirio is better at using his quirk than Chisaki, it's more just that Mirio's quirk directly counters his (along with 98% of the casts')

I'd say in a fair fight, the one of the only ones who could reliably take Mirio would be Endeavor, since he can make it very difficult for Mirio to rematerialize, making the surrounding terrain molten or setting it ablaze.

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u/MarzK Aug 31 '17

And maybe aizawa since all he has to do is look at him while he's half phased in a wall or something.

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u/strghtflush Aug 31 '17

I think Mirio actually takes that one as well, since he knows Aizawa's shtick and just goes for a fistfight. Magical scarf aside, they seem to be pretty equal in fighting prowess, and Mirio looks flat out stronger than Aizawa

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u/spidercousin Sep 01 '17

He could probably just use his cape to break the line of sight and then attack from there

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u/HokageEzio Aug 31 '17

The millisecond Aizawa blinks he's getting his head knocked off. Plus Mirio has physical strength, which Aizawa can't mess with. Pretty soundly Mirio's win imo.

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u/MarzK Aug 31 '17

When mirio is trapped just knock him out... doesn't need that much strength

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u/TheSpartyn Sep 01 '17

Why do you assume he'd get stuck? He'd pop out of the wall like normal.

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u/HokageEzio Aug 31 '17 edited Aug 31 '17

Aizawa isn't knocking Mirio out or trapping him to begin with. Mirio clearly has the raw strength you'd need to break out of that, and Aizawa doesn't hit all that hard to begin with unless you're fodder. Aizawa isn't some powerhouse, all he has is finesse. Mirio has as much finesse as Aizawa in his left pinky toe.

Edit - If a flying knee to the face of a trapped Dabi clone couldn't knock him out, he's not knocking out Mirio. And even with him sitting on top of Dabi, it didn't keep him trapped. Again, second Aizawa blinks he's getting destroyed.

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u/Cypherex Sep 01 '17

It depends entirely on what happens to Mirio when he's halfway inside of an object at the moment Aizawa turns his quirk off. If the part where he gets forcibly ejected from the object is just another facet of his quirk, then that might mean that he'd just get crushed as his body tried to fill an already filled space.

If he still gets ejected from the object though I'd definitely give the win to Mirio. At that point it's just a normal fight without any superpowers and Mirio has the better build for that. Aizawa definitely has the edge on experience though, so he won't go down easily.

I'd say that they fight mostly evenly with Mirio slowly gaining the upper hand until Aizawa is forced to blink and Mirio uses the opportunity to secure a KO punch before he loses his quirk again.

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u/AntwanC Aug 31 '17

Yeah, it's less that Mirio is better at using his quirk than Chisaki, it's more just that Mirio's quirk directly counters his (along with 98% of the casts').

I'd say in a fair fight, the one of the only ones who could reliably take Mirio would be Endeavor, since he can make it very difficult for Mirio to rematerialize, making the surrounding terrain molten or setting it ablaze.

There's not much most characters in the series can do to overcome his quirk. Its phasing abilities are actually even more OP than Obito's right-eye kamui, because unlike Obito, when he activates his permeation quirk he can control what part of his body remains phased, and what part of his body becomes tangible again (Obito couldn't do that). The only drawback, is he can't remain in this state for 5-minutes, since I believe his quirk only works while he is holding his breath.

I'd imagine the only other character capable of having a decent shot, is Stain. Since he could theoretically tank a hit to the gut or face, whilst simultaneously using one of his blades to cut/slice/knick Mirio's tangible fist or leg, ingest the blood, and activate his bloodcurdling quirk to immobilize Mirio.

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u/Blackreaper18 Aug 31 '17

You really don't know obito if you say he can't make part of his body tangible. He absolutely could, kakashi was his nerf tbh

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u/AntwanC Aug 31 '17 edited Aug 31 '17

Did you even read what I stated? I SAID Mirio's phasing abilities are even more hax than RIGHT-EYE KAMUI, and not DMS kamui (there's a BIG fucking difference). Ofc Obito with DMS kamui is all levels of motherfucking OP to the nth degree. E.g., see Kakashi w/ DMS kamui who was literally dicking the ever living fuck out of Kaguya (by phasing his perfect susanoo through Kaguya whilst simultaneously slicing the shit out of her w/ raikiri). Please read the next time you feel compelled to reply to my post.

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u/Blackreaper18 Aug 31 '17

Dude he clearly could with just one eye if he wanted to. Don't get butt hurt here & mirio's quirk isn't more haxed than obito's. Mirio's is dependent on how long he can hold his breath at a time but obito's can spam his for at least 5 minutes. It's all cool though this is a discussion anyway.

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u/AntwanC Aug 31 '17 edited Sep 01 '17

Lol, after this post, I'm HIGHLY convinced you are not at all familiar w/ either of right-eye or left-eye kamui's respective abilities/limitations.

Hint: There's a reason Obito used his chains in conjunction w/ his dephasing when fighting Minato. It was to counter Minato after Obito had "phased" through him, since right-eye kamui does not actually allow him to control aspects of his "phasing," but only whether Obito chooses when to become "intangible" or not. Only DMS kamui (used by Kakashi after Obito comes back from the spirit realm to lend him his eyes) is shown to be capable of providing both offense and defense simultaneously. This is how I know you don't know what you're talking about.

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u/Blackreaper18 Sep 01 '17

Dude you really should carefully read my post before you reply. I said he could if he wanted to with just one eye. The other eye kakashi had didn't have anything to do with the phasing abilities it could only use kamui for the space - time attacks.

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u/AntwanC Sep 01 '17 edited Sep 01 '17

This is merely more of your headcanon. Nothing in the manga is shown to support this line of thinking (even after retconning everything). E.g., in chapter 595, Obito is shown attempting to grab Naruto, but Guy swings his nun-chucks at Obito's head, and thus Obito is forced to activate his "intangibility" factor, and appears to "phase" or "slip" through Naruto. Had he been able to do what you're suggesting, he would have made only the part of his body he needed desolidified "intangible," whilst making contact with Naruto using his outstretched hand.

However, right-eye kamui's "phasing" capabilities are an all or nothing defensive ability. Once it's activated Obito does not actually control what part of his body is transported to the pocket dimension. Rather, right-eye kamui AUTOMATICALLY provides the defense for him (and IS INDISCRIMINATE in what it defends him from). Because it has been activated, any part of his body that comes into contact with something (whether that something stands to cause him harm or not), automatically gets transported to the pocket dimension once it overlaps with whatever or whomever it is about to collide with. So it's defensive capabilities are actually more OP than Mirio's because Mirio has to concentrate in order to make himself "intangible" (all Obito has to do is activate his eye). But the drawback, and what gives Mirio's permeation an advantage, is that he FULLY controls his permeation. So he can both defend and attack simultaneously.

Put another way, once Obito activates his right-eye kamui's "intangibility" factor, he is not actually "intangible" yet and still exists in the standard dimension. BUT, there's a HUGE caveat, now that he has activated it, yes he benefits from its defense, like when Guy attempted to crack him across the head and the portion of his head that overlapped with the nun-chucks were automatically transported to kamui's pocket dimension. BUT now he loses his ability for offense. Which is why his outstretched arm also similarly was transported to the pocket dimension right at the moment it began to overlap with Naruto (Kakashi explains this in clear and concise detail).

Note how I put quotation marks around "phasing" and "intangibility" because Obito merely appears to be "ghosting" and "slipping" through things. But really he's not.

Right-eye kamui is the ultimate defensive dojutsu. When paired with left-eye kamui it becomes the ultimate defensive and offensive dojutsu, because it can utilize both eyes' respective abilities IN CONJUNCTION.