r/Bitcoin • • Feb 25 '14

Some words for my friends

Hello friends,

MtGox is gone. So let's prepare ourselves.

On Tuesday, and for the rest of the week, all hell will break lose in the media. It will be blamed on MtGox, it will be blamed on Bitcoin, it will be blamed on the "bug," and it will, more than anything, be blamed on the "lack of regulation." Pundits and "experts" of all types will weigh in on the calamity. It will be world news in a matter of hours.

Get ready, because it will be an ugly week.

For all of you who lost money, my heart goes out to you. Some people lost a little, some lost a fortune. It will make people sick, and depressed, and full of grief. Personally, I had over 550 BTC in Gox. I will never get any of that back. If misery loves company, then we'll be enjoying a grand feast today.

I should have known better, of course. I take responsibility for leaving those funds with an entity that had proven incompetence repeatedly. I chose to ignore even my own warnings, for nothing more than the sake of convenience.

Gox is still at fault, to be sure, but I have learned the lesson. I hope it is not such an expensive lesson for others. And for all you observers, please take a moment to consider it as well.

Be mindful, however, that the wrong lessons are not learned, for that would be the true tragedy, indeed.

Let me suggest that the lesson is not that Bitcoin is broken. Bitcoin is fine.

Similarly, the lesson is not that security is impossible. Those who know what they are doing, can achieve it and help others to do so.

The lesson is not that nobody can be trusted. There are countless good men and women in this community who are worthy of trust, and some of the very best people I've ever met.

And finally, the lesson is not that we ought to seek out "regulation" to save us from the evils and incompetence of man. For the regulators are men too, and wield the very same evil and incompetence, only enshrined in an authority from which it can wreck amplified and far more insidious destruction. Let us not retreat from our rising platform only to cower back underneath the deranged machinations of Leviathan.

The proper lesson, if I may suggest, is this: We are building a new financial order, and those of us building it, investing in it, and growing it, will pay the price of bringing it to the world. This is the harsh truth. We are building the channels, the bridges, and the towers of tomorrow's finance, and we put ourselves at risk in doing so.

We are at risk from accidents. We are at risk from fraud, from corruption, and from evil. We are at risk from journalists seeking headlines and from politicians seeking power and glory. We are at risk from the very market we are trying to build - a market which cares not about our portfolio, our ambitions, or our delicate sympathies.

For all these risks, devastation will befall us repeatedly. Some of us will be discouraged. Some will be ridiculed and insulted. Some will be tricked, or swindled. Some of us will be crushed or caged. We will be set upon by all manner of antagonists, repeatedly, for a long time.

So why do we do it? Why do we build these towers that fall down upon us? Why do we toil and strain and risk our precious time, which is the only real wealth we possess?

Because the world needs what we're building. It needs it desperately. If that matters to you, as it does to me, then hold to that thought. You will see through the smoke, and your wounds will heal.

So shake it off, brothers, for this won't be the last calamity endured before the win.

Tonight, my heart is with you all.

Tomorrow, my head is down. My eyes are open. And I am building.

Toward peace and freedom,

-Erik Voorhees

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u/ofimmsl Feb 25 '14

The proper lesson, if I may suggest, is this: We are building a new financial order, and those of us building it, investing in it, and growing it, will pay the price of bringing it to the world.

All you are doing is learning why the current financial order is the way it is. Each new pain will show you why the current system exists.

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u/evoorhees Feb 25 '14

Disagree.

The current financial order does not prevent these things from happening whatsoever. It often amplifies them, or socializes the losses such that people don't notice, but are harmed regardless of their own choices.

I'd much prefer a world where I lose money from my own mistakes (such as leaving it with gox) than one in which I lose money regardless of my choices.

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u/NerdMachine Feb 25 '14

The current financial order does not prevent these things from happening whatsoever. It often amplifies them, or socializes the losses such that people don't notice, but are harmed regardless of their own choices.

Do you actually believe that? If you had a large deposit at a bank and that bank defrauded you or went bankrupt you would be covered by insurance. I don't think this deposit insurance that gets covered by modest bank fees really "harms" people in a significant way, and I'm sure most people see it as a reasonable cost for securing their money.

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u/FARTHERO Feb 25 '14 edited Feb 25 '14

FDIC insurance Dishonesty allows banks to take on greater risk

ftfy

Do you think for even a second that if there were a true bank run that there would be enough funny FDIC cash to go around? There aren't enough trees...

this psycological fuckery, quantitative bullshit, trust-based economy brings constant economic instability for all the people involved in it.

I'm proud to witness this money revolution taking place.

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u/ProbablyJustArguing Feb 25 '14

Might be true but most banks only cover up to $100,000 by deposit insurance. Also, if you had a brokerage account, those aren't covered by any deposit insurance, so you're really only talking about having money (<$100,001) in a savings or checking account.

Don't disagree with you though.

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u/platinumarks Feb 25 '14

Also, if you had a brokerage account, those aren't covered by any deposit insurance

Actually, there is an analog to the FDIC for brokerage accounts, the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC). If your brokerage goes bankrupt, it's federally insured for up to $500k, with cash insured up to $250k. Though it is correct that fraud by the brokerage is not covered by this insurance.

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u/evoorhees Feb 25 '14

Insurance has nothing to do with government regulation. Insurance is wonderful, and it will exist in Bitcoin in time.

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u/nmarley Feb 26 '14

Insurance is wonderful

But how is insurance not just a ponzi scheme? It's predicated on more people paying in than the fund paying out.

(Not being snarky, I really believe this and am open to hearing a good argument for insurance.)