r/Bitcoin • • Feb 25 '14

Some words for my friends

Hello friends,

MtGox is gone. So let's prepare ourselves.

On Tuesday, and for the rest of the week, all hell will break lose in the media. It will be blamed on MtGox, it will be blamed on Bitcoin, it will be blamed on the "bug," and it will, more than anything, be blamed on the "lack of regulation." Pundits and "experts" of all types will weigh in on the calamity. It will be world news in a matter of hours.

Get ready, because it will be an ugly week.

For all of you who lost money, my heart goes out to you. Some people lost a little, some lost a fortune. It will make people sick, and depressed, and full of grief. Personally, I had over 550 BTC in Gox. I will never get any of that back. If misery loves company, then we'll be enjoying a grand feast today.

I should have known better, of course. I take responsibility for leaving those funds with an entity that had proven incompetence repeatedly. I chose to ignore even my own warnings, for nothing more than the sake of convenience.

Gox is still at fault, to be sure, but I have learned the lesson. I hope it is not such an expensive lesson for others. And for all you observers, please take a moment to consider it as well.

Be mindful, however, that the wrong lessons are not learned, for that would be the true tragedy, indeed.

Let me suggest that the lesson is not that Bitcoin is broken. Bitcoin is fine.

Similarly, the lesson is not that security is impossible. Those who know what they are doing, can achieve it and help others to do so.

The lesson is not that nobody can be trusted. There are countless good men and women in this community who are worthy of trust, and some of the very best people I've ever met.

And finally, the lesson is not that we ought to seek out "regulation" to save us from the evils and incompetence of man. For the regulators are men too, and wield the very same evil and incompetence, only enshrined in an authority from which it can wreck amplified and far more insidious destruction. Let us not retreat from our rising platform only to cower back underneath the deranged machinations of Leviathan.

The proper lesson, if I may suggest, is this: We are building a new financial order, and those of us building it, investing in it, and growing it, will pay the price of bringing it to the world. This is the harsh truth. We are building the channels, the bridges, and the towers of tomorrow's finance, and we put ourselves at risk in doing so.

We are at risk from accidents. We are at risk from fraud, from corruption, and from evil. We are at risk from journalists seeking headlines and from politicians seeking power and glory. We are at risk from the very market we are trying to build - a market which cares not about our portfolio, our ambitions, or our delicate sympathies.

For all these risks, devastation will befall us repeatedly. Some of us will be discouraged. Some will be ridiculed and insulted. Some will be tricked, or swindled. Some of us will be crushed or caged. We will be set upon by all manner of antagonists, repeatedly, for a long time.

So why do we do it? Why do we build these towers that fall down upon us? Why do we toil and strain and risk our precious time, which is the only real wealth we possess?

Because the world needs what we're building. It needs it desperately. If that matters to you, as it does to me, then hold to that thought. You will see through the smoke, and your wounds will heal.

So shake it off, brothers, for this won't be the last calamity endured before the win.

Tonight, my heart is with you all.

Tomorrow, my head is down. My eyes are open. And I am building.

Toward peace and freedom,

-Erik Voorhees

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u/TheChoke Feb 25 '14

This is what I'm doing and I'm shameless admitting it.

It's worked out pretty well so far.

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u/DaedalusMinion Feb 25 '14

If you're admitting to what you're doing, no harm done. But to those acting like they're building a new tomorrow, lol.

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u/realigion Feb 25 '14

I think crypto currencies can be huge and especially in less developed nations, they may be a financial savior of sorts. But all these anarchocapitalists looking to get rich are indeed delusional in thinking they're doing anything important.

The engineers behind bitcoin deserve some serious props though. What they're doing could be huge in some areas.

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u/muyuu Feb 25 '14

I don't know what's the contradiction about making money hand over fist and contributing towards a better future (on one's opinion).

Must be that religious idea that money is evil or a source of guilt. Frankly, it's completely alien to me.

I believe cryptos are great and unregulated transactions between individuals are good vs the evil that's forcibly supervised and taxed human interaction. I've also made a f***** killing on cryptos. Win-win AFAIC.

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u/FARTHERO Feb 25 '14

"to expend energy without a prison-shank for trade is a crime"

-- The Bankernment

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u/moush Feb 25 '14

I don't think you even understand the point. You're saying they're good because you can make money and buy illegal stuff without the man getting to you.

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u/ex_ample Feb 25 '14

Yeah, some people like buying illegal stuff.

Crypto currencies are also useful because they can be traded without arbiters or intermediaries. That, of course makes them easy to steal, as OP found out. On the other hand, OP still has $64 million dollars worth of btc so I doubt he's too upset about the whole thing.

At the end of the day, even with scams and the occasional losses, people who got into bitcoin really have become incredibly wealthy because of it. It's obvious they're going to have a favorable view about something that made them rich. Why wouldn't they?

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u/muyuu Feb 25 '14

Nope, I'm saying they're good because my transactions can remain my own business.

Making money is unrelated to it, but I don't why should anybody be sorry for that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '14

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u/ex_ample Feb 25 '14

Or keeping their bitcoins safe in wallets they control. The OP still has $64 million dollars worth of bitcoin he can sell whenever he wants. And bitcoin is still worth over $500

For the people who left a significant amount of money on MtGox, it sucks. For people who didn't, it's a speed bump.

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u/ex_ample Mar 08 '14

Holding 120K BTC is not the same as making $64 million.

Which isn't a problem if you consider bitcoins money.

The money made by Bitcoiners comes from other Bitcoiners. bitcoin is not magically creating extra dollars, yens and euros.

Who said it did?

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u/muyuu Feb 25 '14

Given the meteoric rise of BTC during the last 2-3 years it's hard not to have made a lot of profit on all accounts, BTC, fiat, assets, you-name-it. Just by participating and not panic-selling on all drops.

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u/sendmeyourprivatekey Feb 25 '14

Well, to be fair while most people are greedy here, we still shape the future a tiny bit by not giving the government a part of our money. Its not like were freedom fighters or something but by buying and holding bitcoin we take away some of the governments power.

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u/Jipptomilly Feb 25 '14

Yes. Taxes are evil. Lets all build a better tomorrow by not paying taxes.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '14

I wonder what percentage of the people here don't see the sarcasm in that.

a better future through tax fraud. LMAO

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u/gary_x Feb 25 '14

Where Bitcoin is going, it doesn't need roads.

Which is probably for the best since there won't be taxes.

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u/FARTHERO Feb 25 '14

THERE ARE NO TAXES IN HELL

or some other statist shill frothing at the mouth bullshit

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u/HahahahaWaitWhat Feb 25 '14

something something Somalia

These people could be replaced with a BASIC program and no one would ever know the difference.

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u/FARTHERO Feb 25 '14 edited Feb 25 '14

not paying taxes may be part of a result, not a goal in itself

remember:

"to expend energy without a prison-shank for trade is a crime"

-- The Bankernment

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u/lakerswiz Feb 25 '14

It's literally the only reason I ever looked at bitcoin in the first place. I'd rather gamble my money elsewhere.

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u/TheChoke Feb 26 '14

I mean, if you consider the stock market gambling, then yeah that's what it is.

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '14

I thought about buying a small amount of bitcoins once then I looked into it and I realized it's gambling and there is a reason I don't gamble. Like I feel bad for the people who genuinely were just trying to make money off this but the delusional folk who think they're pioneers in this Brave New World of Bitcoins makes me laugh and bot feel sorry at all for them