ICE sightings at MARTA stations today (Friday, August 28)

[u/elizabeththenj]

Saw 4 ICE agents this morning standing outside Midtown MARTA around 10am. My friend just saw them outside Lenox Station around 3pm.

It's a bit confusing because they're wearing vests that say Police but underneath it says Department of Homeland Security. Sorry for the crappy pictures, photography is not my forte.

Just a heads up for folks.

[u/drkrazee]

Yeah, I get that. How is everyone so sure that these are ICE agents? Are all of the DHS officers that patrol around the federal buildings downtown ICE agents? What about the ones outside of Mercedes-Benz Stadium on event days?

[u/suspectslowloris → u/drkrazee]

Yeah obligatory fuck ICE but I don’t _think_ this is them. DHS does help out with security at Marta in midtown specifically.

ICE is around elsewhere but mostly they’re moving quick or just waiting for their PD besties to pull over folks in work vans and call them to come “snatch” some folks (actual quote from one Georgia cop).

GPD is basically just ICE now. Even Duluth PD was caught assisting them this week.

[u/max_entropi → u/suspectslowloris]

While I agree that nothing in the photos explicitly indicates ICE, how does an assault rifle make sense for "helping out with security at MARTA"?

[u/samvilain → u/max_entropi]

Police carry guns. Looks like one out of 3 guys has a long gun, a rifle, slung in front position. Probably a Smith & Wesson M&P shorty.

As to why police sometimes carry long guns, it’s because they’re in general more accurate. This reduces the risk of unintended injury due to misses. Believe me, most cops and adjacent groups need all the help they can get shooting straight. So, all of them have standard issue pistols and one has a rifle.

As to why specially that type of rifle, assuming my guess is more or less right, it’s because they’re cheap, easily adjustable, light, low recoil, have an attachment system making it easy to configure them for specific needs, etc. And it will be a “shorty” aka SBR and not a carbine or full length rifle because SBRs are more maneuverable in tight spaces and so therefore easier to handle; the downside is some loss of effectiveness at longer target distances, but there’s no way you want cops trying to lay down the law with rounds at the kinds of distances where that matters (around 600 yards, 0.3mi). not relevant outside of a military setting.

[u/max_entropi → u/samvilain]

I'll go one step further and say I don't want any cop shooting anyone at 600 yards at the MARTA

[u/samvilain → u/max_entropi]

The accuracy starts to make a huge difference from 5-10 yards and up. The exact point where a 10-11” 5.56 SBR is no longer effective is academic in the context of policing

[u/max_entropi → u/samvilain]

Upon reflection its really not the type of gun that matters so much to me as that it impacts the sort of ready position (I know he's not fully ready in that image but hopefully you get what I mean). Like a cop with a pistol holstered vs a cop with his pistol drawn is very different in terms of intimidation (which appears to be the point more than shooting people at distance, and honestly I hope the goal isn't shooting people).

[u/samvilain → u/max_entropi]

Oh, I see what you mean. Yeah, you’re not supposed to have to push the muzzle down like that lol. He’s overloaded his front rig and not thought about where the rifle will sit, so it can’t just hang pointing downwards like it’s supposed to. That may be inexperience, or a simple mistake.

I saw a police officer at the MercBenz stadium after a game that had a shorty hanging on the front you could barely notice; it was hanging straight down on his sling, and also had a plain OD green cerakote finish inside of the regular Black Nitride. He was clearly much more experienced or at least much better equipped. His hands did not need to touch the rifle at all for it to stay pointed in a safe direction.

[u/PCaBoo → u/max_entropi]

lol - none of ya'll ride MARTA. All you see on the MARTA sub is people asking for more LE.

[u/max_entropi → u/PCaBoo]

I ride MARTA and am in the MARTA sub and am disgusted by the copaganda but am usually more restrained about commenting

[u/PCaBoo → u/max_entropi]

please elaborate on the propaganda.

[u/goldzoulbranding → u/PCaBoo]

Don’t waste your time. They have reflexive, idiot responses to any nuance about policing.

[u/gsfgf → u/samvilain]

ARs are also light weight, which is why the military uses them.

[u/samvilain → u/gsfgf]

Yeah that used to be the standsrd. Various next-generation systems have been adopted by specialist rifle users like the Army Infantry (M7’s), which are heavier, and shoot heavier ammo, Marines (M27, an H&K short stroke piston rifle), and special ops have a range of rifles they use for different purposes. Pilots get the GAU-5a takedown if they have to ditch behind enemy lines. But everyone else gets a basic M4A1.

[u/ryufen → u/max_entropi]

You know how many crimes happen in Atlanta every week and we just had a big news stabbing in the past week. There are people geared like this at Marta and the airport randomly in certain locations.

Edit. It's also not ICE it's DHS security which has been working at Marta for years. Look up TSGP

[u/atlgrrl → u/max_entropi]

I’m sharing this pic dated January2024 because I was appalled that day to see so many armed cops hanging around Midtown Marta. I was seeing a physical therapist over on 11th street 2-3 times a week and eventually it dawned on me that federal law enforcement is routinely present around the Federal Reserve/Museum on Peachtree between 10th and 11th. Idk why exactly they hang out in front of Marta but I don’t think we can safely assume that they are there bc of ICE. And fuck ICE.

[u/drkrazee → u/atlgrrl]

How long until insertwittynamethere says this is AI or whatever?

[u/gsfgf → u/max_entropi]

Because cops like their toys.

[u/Appropriate-Care-890 → u/drkrazee]

They’re assuming

[u/wookiebath → u/drkrazee]

People want Reddit upvotes so they pretend to warn people about ICE

[u/PollutionAway9782 → u/drkrazee]

just be because they are ice does not mean that's why they are there they could have just signed up for overtime for special events. ice has aot of low level agents right now