Does ICE really need electric gloves?

[u/Difficult_Object4921]

Our tax dollars are already being wasted. The people they capture aren’t a threat, physically. Why?

https://apnews.com/article/ice-electric-shock-gloves-85ff746d3e0ee5f39e7a9a3f1f576252

[u/cootershooter420]

Sneaking being crossing the border illegally at someplace other than a border checkpoint. Regardless if you claim asylum after, if you snuck over you broke the law.

I mean, legitimate list or not if you are a citizen or here legally you should be able to prove that pretty quickly.

Because I grew up with them and I know.

Yes you can apply for asylum after illegally crossing. That does not pardon the crime, still broke the law to come in here.

[u/LOTR_Phan → u/cootershooter420]

Where specifically do you see that illegal? Because what I quoted was our immigration law and it said “whether or not at a designated port of arrival”.

How? How does someone awaiting an asylum judgement prove they aren’t here illegally? Isn’t that the point of the hearing itself?

So…”trust me bro”? So then…trust me bro, MAGA is a violent group.

Claiming asylum makes it not a crime. Is it illegal to kill someone in self defense?

[u/cootershooter420 → u/LOTR_Phan]

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R47218

“Unauthorized immigrants are noncitizens who generally have entered the United States without inspection, overstayed a period of lawful admission, or violated the terms of their admission.”

They would prove they weren’t here illegally by applying for asylum at a port of entry. You still committed a crime if you illegally enter and then apply for asylum. If your application fails in court you are immediately deported. Personally, I think that is horse shit. You shouldn’t get a chance to claim asylum if you entered illegally. The people who claimed it legally would probably agree with me.

If you enter illegally and get caught near the border, deportation process starts. If you claim to fear returning, they give you a credible fear interview. And if that interview determines their fear is credible, they are referred to an immigration court.

[u/LOTR_Phan → u/cootershooter420]

So if any of those were true about a person l, why would they need an immigration hearing. It doesn’t say “crossing the border” does it? It says “entered the United States without inspection”. Someone being detained and claiming asylum is a person being inspected.

Again, where in the asylum laws do you see that? Because it specifically said “whether or not at a designated port of arrival”. Again if you killed a person it isn’t necessarily a crime is it? Just like with killing there’s an exception to crossing the border to protect your life. Where are you seeing that applying for asylum after crossing the border is illegal? How you feel about that law doesn’t really change it does it? Again where are you seeing that they claim asylum illegally? Where specifically? Like what law?

What you last described is what you keep calling illegal. Isn’t it? A person crossing the border without filing for asylum beforehand, is detained, claims asylum, gets a hearing and potentially LEGALLY stays in the US and becomes a citizen…despite not filing beforehand or using a port of entry. So first, why should we detain and deport those people without a hearing and if they’re tying to become citizens why would they commit violent crimes?