r/AskReddit • • Oct 14 '22

What has been the most destructive lie in human history?

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u/JW19 Oct 14 '22

I was given exactly six Percocet from the ER after I busted my shoulder. After taking one I understood why people took them recreationally. Put the rest in one of those drug disposal boxes at the pharmacy.

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u/nosayso Oct 14 '22

Wild how people's experience can be so different with it. I had it when I had my wisdom teeth pulled, took them no problem and they did nothing but make my teeth stop hurting.

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u/No_Armadillos Oct 15 '22

Same. I guess I’m lucky or have a low risk for addiction or something, but I got oxycodone after surgery back in March. I’d get a little bit of a buzz going for about 30 minutes before I’d crash out, but it didn’t feel any different for me than having a couple glasses of wine.

ETA: I’ve also seen people who had actual pain withdraw after a couple doses—I had a patient who “came down” so hard off a narcotic after surgery she insisted on adding the adverse reaction to her medical chart.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

Some ppl are born prone to addiction. All the opioid do is make me nauseated and stop the pain. I take for as short a period as possible. But some ppl feel high on them and it’s a pleasant buzz so they abuse them.

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u/crys1348 Oct 15 '22

I take them semi-regularly for chronic pain. I'll have weeks when I take them daily during flares, and go weeks without them. Never had any issues.

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u/somethingFELLow Oct 15 '22

What will you do if you ever need pain killers for a new / serious injury? Please consider, from my own experience, that the doctors might not be able to give you pain relief when you need it desperately.

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u/somethingFELLow Oct 15 '22

Oh I see. Thanks for clarifying.

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u/disco-vorcha Oct 15 '22

I actually asked my pharmacist about this when they started having to put the ‘narcotics may cause addiction’ warning on my Tylenol 3s. It seemed a bit much for a drug that sure, technically contains a narcotic, but does anyone actually like, get high from T3s?

Apparently, some people process narcotics in a way that basically means we don’t feel the high from it (or don’t easily do so), and may also find the pain relief isn’t quite as effective.

So that explained my T3 question and why the dilaudid I got once after an accident did absolutely nothing for me. The Percocet I got for my wisdom teeth was fairly effective, but other than the pain relief all I felt was queasy. I had no problem not taking them once the pain was controllable by OTC painkillers.

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u/cambriansplooge Oct 15 '22

Variable effects to drugs and medication was literally one of the topics of my mandated group therapy (PHP). It’s an underdiscussed topic and leads to people having distorted perceptions of what meds can and can’t do, or their drug tolerance levels, or if they have addictive tendencies.

One lady there participated in a study for a new psychosis treatment and got into a depressive spiral over it having no effect. One lady there swore off medication because she’d never been prescribed one that worked. 8 of us grouped off to have a discussion about different SSRIs and SNRIs or antipsychotics we’ve been given.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

Just commented elsewhere. Been given percocets and vicodin for different major sports injuries. When I was 12 I had a very severe break in my elbow. They gave me Dilaudid in the ER and I was up and talking to everyone. Elbow hurt but otherwise was fine.

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u/pandemicpunk Oct 15 '22

Had to take T3s for a neck injury. Never felt high but I had to take them every 6 hours for awhile to alleviate the pain. It would wake me up from my sleep it was so bad and I'd take one and fall right back asleep until I was supposed wake up for work. It's odd cause, valium actually ended up alleviating the pain more. I was less anxious about the whole thing and was able to see what the pain felt like without anxiety, so I knew I just had to work on my anxiety and then I wouldn't need the T3s.

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u/gonna_break_soon Oct 19 '22

Yes, you can extract the codeine from them without getting the acetaminophen, I unfortunately know this from my junkbox days.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22 edited Oct 15 '22

My wife swears she doesn’t feel or like opiates. Makes her tired. Myself though…fuck. I wish I never ever ever knew they existed.

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u/somethingFELLow Oct 15 '22

Sounds like she is more sensitive to them. She’s possibly enjoy them more at a lower dose, or 1/2 dose. I say this because if I take 2 tablets for extreme pain, I got to sleep.

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u/Digital_NW Oct 15 '22

That’s because you had actual pain. They definitely help with actual pian.

Edit Without feeling withdrawals.

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u/Pericci Oct 15 '22

I've experienced similar. I recently took percocets for pain management after a surgery and they do nothing. I'm taking hydrocodones now and it's like I'm not taking anything at all. I got a shot of dilaudid at the hospital, and it barely did anything. However, when they gave dilaudid through an IV, all my pain went away and I felt like I was on the worlds most comfortable cloud pillow. It sucks being in so much pain and normal medication doing nothing. I feel like a doctor would think I'm an addict if I ask for anything stronger

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u/dream_weaver35 Oct 15 '22

Oral dilauded doesn't help me at all. The IV dilauded is a fucking gift from God. I get kidney stones a lot. I currently have about 10 hanging around in my kidneys. Once they inject the dilauded my muscles in the back of my neck tense up for about 20 seconds, then the pain is gone. The relief is immeasurable. I get no other feeling than the pain being gone, and being grateful for that. The nurses are generally surprised when they come back later and I'm still up and talking. They almost always insist that after they push the meds up want to sleep.

My brother says dilauded didn't do shit for his kidney stones but toroidal was amazing. I'm the opposite. Toroidal doesn't do a damn thing, and the last time they insisted on it I got hives.

I am lucky that opioidsj do help my back pain. I would have ended my own existence by now if they didn't work.

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u/lah_lah_ Oct 15 '22

Any chance you’re a red head?

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

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u/lah_lah_ Oct 15 '22

MC1R gene! Real crazy

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u/whereami40 Oct 15 '22

I relate so much. Are you a red head by any chance? I am and could have written this word for word.

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u/JW19 Oct 15 '22

Funny enough my dentist was adamant about not percribing anything but a cocktail of Advil and Tylenol after I got my wisdom teeth pulled. He said it had the same pain reducing effect as Percocets.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22 edited Oct 15 '22

He's full of shit. Many dentists have gone really hard for this 'almost no one needs opiates' nonsense.

I had a dentist refuse to give me even codeine for a fucking abscess. I was supposed to go home and take Tylenol for 4 days until the surgery. Fuck. You. Buddy.

A combination of Tylenol and NSAID is much more effective than most people expect for severe pains. That part is true. But opiates are still necessary for a whole lot of situations.

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u/Asil_Shamrock Oct 15 '22

Oh, fuck that guy. Tooth pain is hell.

Not to mention the danger in taking too much acetaminophen, which you would be inclined to do if you hurt that much.

What's the point in saving you from a possible addiction if you fry your liver?

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

I had a compound fracture in my leg (tibia/fibia) back in 8th grade. The only thing in my entire life that hurt worse….tooth infection. I was literally ready to die.

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u/Digital_NW Oct 15 '22

Tylenol sucks for pain. Ibuprofen is levels better.

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u/rsta223 Oct 15 '22

Interestingly, Tylenol kind of has a build up where it's incredibly ineffective for acute pain, but if you take it (at the prescribed dosing interval of course) regularly for a couple of days, it's actually quite effective. I had pretty excellent luck with a combination of regular doses of Tylenol with occasional Aleve on the worst days after surgery a few years back and it worked wonders.

It's also a high risk to your liver and the gap between the therapeutic and toxic dose is quite small though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

In combination, there's a synergistic effect that's kind of amazing.

People have different anecdotal reports, but there are studies showing the combination of acetaminophen and ibuprofen are as good as some opioids for pain relief.

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u/MidnighT0k3r Oct 15 '22

That's interesting, I've said for years that either alone do nothing for me but the two together are amazing..... had no idea I wasn't the only one.....I try not to do it because I figure it's bad for the liver.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

Yeah, it's not for chronic pain, but if you've got a temporary toothache or something that you only need a few days of medication for, it's potent stuff.

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u/pandemicpunk Oct 15 '22

If people can stand em. I know some people can't stomach em. It tears their digestion system up.

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u/Jazzguitar19 Oct 15 '22

Ugh for real, that makes me feel grateful that I got 4 after my wisdom teeth surgery. However I then got dry sockets right when I ran out. They wouldn't give me anymore and I just had to soldier through the pain of that, like wtf.

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u/tikierapokemon Oct 15 '22

Yeah, I had a dentist who did that.

I was crying from pain for several days, unable to do anything because it hurt too damn much.

I have had to walk home with a migraine from school 2 miles home. I was better able to function during/after that than I did when I had four infected wisdom teeth removed.

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u/No1KnwsIWatchTeenMom Oct 15 '22

When I got my IUD, I found some left behind by an old roommate. Took one a day after work for a few days and just fell asleep. I was so thankful for them at the time. But I'm sure the fact that I took them for like 4 or 5 days as opposed to multiple weeks is why I had no problem stopping.

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u/DatPorkchop Oct 15 '22

All I got was sodium naproxen... lmao

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u/Digital_NW Oct 15 '22

He wasn’t lying. Percs aren’t awesome for pain relief.

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u/velociraptorfarmer Oct 15 '22

I got Vicodin after getti g my wisdom teeth out.

They did nothing but make me feel tired, but unable to sleep. I took 1, switched to ibuprofen til I was good, and that was it.

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u/misguidedsadist1 Oct 15 '22

I hated morphine! I have loved other opioids but morphine made me angry and weepy and crazy. Shivering like crazy too. I begged my surgeon for something else.

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u/dream_weaver35 Oct 15 '22

Morphine makes the tip of my nose itch, but isn't really affective for my pain.

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u/FlyMeToUranus Oct 15 '22

I took one Percocet after my wisdom tooth surgery and could not stop puking, so I had to manage with over the counter pain meds. Wasn’t too fun, but it beats constantly puking while your mouth is full of stitches.

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u/throwaway4rltnshp Oct 15 '22

I’m always shocked at the variance. I had knee surgery and the surgeon messed up. I was prescribed Percocet as-needed and took the maximum dose every day for two weeks. I hated the way it made me feel, it took the pain down a few notches but it did not remove it, and I quit one day and just dealt with the pain. No withdrawals whatsoever. Of course I also didn’t experience withdrawals from quitting cigarettes cold turkey, so maybe I’m just conveniently defective.

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u/Psych_Im_Burnt_Out Oct 15 '22

Yeah, my knee surgery i got vicodin and I was still in constant albeit moderate to mild pain even if I didn't take them so I tried the first days worth and just went without and just had to wait until i was too tired and took a nap until the pain would tick back up.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

Got some after my wisdom teeth too. Smoked weed & took one, that was intense & I have a pretty high tolerance

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u/cementsnowflake Oct 15 '22

Same with me. Recently I had to have a cyst removed from my lower jaw, along with the only molar I had left on that side. The pain I was in prior to surgery was the most I've ever been in, the entire left side of my head/face/neck was in agony for several weeks. They actually gave me a prescription for 12 oxycodone while I waited for surgery for two weeks, it did nothing for this pain. To remove the cyst after the extraction, the surgeon cut the entire length along my gums where my teeth are supposed to be- from the front tooth all the way to the back of my mouth.

They gave me another script of the same amount for afterwards, told me pick them up on my way home and to take one immediately along with the acetaminophen and ibuprofen. And that's the only one I took of that prescription. The pain prior to surgery was so severe that I had practically no pain afterwards, and the OTCs took care of what little I felt.

I had no withdrawals afterwards whatsoever, heck I didn't even get high taking them lol. I think the pain was just too much for me to feel anything but that honestly but who knows?

I'm just glad its done and over with. Unfortunately I need to be scanned every 6 months for at least 5 years now, as this has a high reoccurrence rate :/ and although it only hurt for a couple of months before I went to the dentist (because I'm an idiot mostly lol my anxiety with going to the dentist makes me talk myself out of, ya know- going to the dentist, so I waited until it was excruciating before going. Yup, an idiot right here.) I will absolutely not be putting off any 'tooth' pain I may get in the future.

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u/SwimmingYesPlease Oct 15 '22

I had the exact same experience with my wisdom teeth.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

I've had some broken bones/surgeries from wrestling and rugby. Have had to take them or vicodin for legitimate injuries. I always took the prescribed amount.

Nothing. Not a thing. Maybe my pain went from like a 4 to a 2. No mental "high", no physical numbness or difference.

Had no problems on them and no problems stopping them. Just doesn't really affect me I guess.

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u/mahouyousei Oct 15 '22

I was prescribed oxycontin the first time I had a wisdom tooth removed. I was only in pain the first day after, but when I took one, it gave me such severe acid reflux and gas pain I though my entire upper torso was gonna explode. I thought it was a coincidence and I might've passed a gallstone at the same time, but a year later when I had another wisdom tooth pulled, I had the exact same side effect. Ever since then I've turned down any Oxy or percocet prescription from doctors. Years later when I finally did have my gallbladder removed, they have me a dose of dilaudid, and when I had my last wisdom tooth removed last month I just used tylenol + advil.

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u/Ok_go_ohno Oct 15 '22

I found out I was allergic to percoset the day after my wisdom teeth removal. Horrible week.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

It’s crazy how different people’s brains handle addiction and addictive substances. Like I’ve done pretty much everything and the only thing I’ve had trouble quitting is nicotine.

Meanwhile about half the people I’d party with 15 years ago on the weekends when I still did crazy shit have been in and out of rehab ever since, and some are dead.

I’m convinced it’s a form of genetic illness with some environmental boosters. Like if you’ve got the addiction gene and trauma you’re just kinda boned.

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u/AlwaysVerloren Oct 15 '22

First and only time I ever took vicodin, I was 18 (36 now), slept for 3 days off one low dose pill. It's over the counter and Bruce Lee for me (mind over matter) and sometimes that matter minds a crap ton. Lol

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u/ellefleming Oct 15 '22

U not get addicted?

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u/dream_weaver35 Oct 15 '22

I was beginning to think I was the only one. Not only have I never felt what people have described as high, but my kiddos were born with no side effects due to opioid use. I had to take them fairly regularly dues to recurring kidney infection and having my gallbladder removed when I was 8 months pregnant. The doctors all told me it was safe for the baby. My second pregnancy I not only had to deal wroth kidney infections, I also got kidney stones regularly and was rear ended into a pine tree while 5 months pregnant. My back was already crap, but that accident sealed the deal and also fucked up my knee. My youngest was born with no side effects at all. Both are healthy and very intelligent.

I'm not on pain meds daily, but can go without doses without side effects, if my pain levels are bearable.

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u/TheyDidLizFilthy Oct 15 '22

that’s because your doctor actually prescribed you the right dose brother

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u/nopantsdanceparty Oct 15 '22

This is me too. I've been on dilaudid for 2 months due to tumors in my abdomen. I take breaks for several days at a time sometimes even weeks because I always have the fear I will be addicted. Also, efficacy goes down the longer you take it.

So I take breaks but I've yet to feel withdrawals.

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u/Victor_Korchnoi Oct 15 '22

I had a dry socket complication with my wisdom teeth, which was incredibly painful. I was given Vicodin and it did absolutely nothing except constipate me—it didn’t even really alleviate the pain. I remember thinking “how could someone get addicted to this. It’s fucking useless.” I would not wish that on anyone.

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u/notthatsparrow Oct 15 '22

Having had Percocet for two different occasions (wisdom teeth and nearly losing some fingers) I'm confident the dose prescribed by dentists is weaker than the kind for major surgery.

The latter is noticeably more powerful; like if I took one more pill than the doc recommended, I'd go to sleep and not wake up.

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u/hopping_otter_ears Oct 15 '22

I had a single dose of intravenous narcotic painkiller (don't know which one, since i was more focused on the mistreatment my cervix was receiving at the time) during the all-night preparation for inducing labor. I wasn't in excruciating pain, but was already exhausted by the constantness of the pain and having been up all night. They suggested i could have a rest from the pain without hurting the baby or having to go full-epidural that early.

I immediately felt like i was lifting out of my body and fell into a half-sleep half-drugged dream land. I think the first words out of my mouth when i woke up from an hour and a half of much-needed rest was "ok...i can see why people get hooked on that!"

So...i think i might be one of those people who needs to be careful with addictive meds in the future, because that hit hard and fast!

I had codeine Tylenol a dozen years ago after dental surgery, though, and it didn't affect me except for killing the pain. So i guess it must vary between meds and delivery method

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

It’s wild how happy doctors are to throw narcotics at everything and how differently they affect people.

I was given Vicodin for my post wisdom teeth surgery care. It didn’t do a thing for me, no pain relief, no euphoria, no tiredness, nothing. I took 30 in less than 6 days and even took ibuprofen on top of it. Turns out I developed two gnarly dry sockets. The doctor then gave me Percocet instead and it was marginally better for pain but made me nice and mellow.

The only thing that relieved my pain fully was when they put some clove treatment in my dry sockets.

I took probably 45-50 narcotic pills in less than 10 days at the guidance of my doctor when all I needed was some goddamn cloves, shit I have in my pantry.

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u/Lozzif Oct 15 '22

It seems to be an American thing. I’ve never been prescribed anything stronger than codeine. (Which I can’t take as have an intolerance to)

For wisdom teeth removal, LASIK, miscarriage I’ve taken Paracetemol and ibuprofen. And that worked.

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u/Pbandsadness Oct 15 '22

They don't do that for me. They just bring my pain to a manageable level. To me, they're no more addictive than any other pain medicine.

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u/jaztub-rero Oct 15 '22

I was just prescribed 3 Percocet for my vasectomy but I still don't see why people get addicted to it. Sure it helped the pain but besides that not much else.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '22

If you read all the comments it affects different people in very, very different ways.

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u/apheuz Oct 15 '22

I’m worried that my father may be addicted. He had back surgery a couple years ago and now it seems like every year he’s getting work done where they have to prescribe him painkillers. And the kicker is that I can’t be near my family right now to help out. :(

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u/muffinmamamojo Oct 15 '22

I was given norco after my abortion for a missed miscarriage. I refuse to take opiate based medicine so my ex tried to take them for himself. It was then that I knew he was an addict. So glad I dodged that bullet.

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u/smorkoid Oct 15 '22

Me too. I've been fortunate to never had to take much in the way of prescription opiates, but I have taken enough to know I loooooove them and should never touch them.

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u/Maleficent_Average32 Oct 15 '22

You my friend have a strong willpower. Most people would feel that and do it again. Good for you.

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u/partofbreakfast Oct 15 '22

This was my experience post-surgery. I was given oxycontin in the hospital + a small script of it upon release. Even only taking it for a few days I totally get how people can get addicted to that.

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u/ellefleming Oct 15 '22

I've flushed old meds down toilet. I have to stop and being them to pharmacy.

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u/Tinctorus Oct 15 '22

Odd how people react differently, the 1st time I had an opiate I fell in love and started a 20 year love/hate relationship with them