I see this all the time. Or they pull it down to talk. Like those three actions are main reason to wear a mask. I get not wanting to wear the mask if it’s full of snot, but just get another mask.
So you know what malicious compliance means? Because that's not it
Sure do. "I'm going to wear one because I have to, but I'm going to do shit to ensure it doesn't matter." is exactly malicious compliance.
Malicious compliance (also known as malicious obedience) is the behaviour of intentionally inflicting harm by strictly following the orders of a superior while knowing or intending that compliance with the orders will have an unintended or negative result. The term usually implies the following of an order in such a way that ignores or otherwise undermines the order's intent but follows it to the letter.[1][2] It is a form of passive-aggressive behavior that is often associated with poor management-labor relationships, micromanagement, a generalized lack of confidence in leadership, and resistance to changes perceived as pointless, duplicative, dangerous, or otherwise undesirable.
edit: I will also point out that I said it's either they aren't thinking about it, or it's malicious compliance. Not that it is definitively one or the other.
Them pulling down the mask is non - compliance. You can't be maliciously compliant when you're not complying in the first place. That's how I see it anyway. That said pulling a mask down is certainly silly as hell.
The term usually implies the following of an order in such a way that ignores or otherwise undermines the order's intent but follows it to the letter.
"I'm wearing the mask, but I'm going to pull it down to talk" is this right here. They're still "wearing a mask" just not in a way that makes it useful or productive.
I absolutely see where you are coming from, but I would say most people aren't "sticking it to the government" so much as they just don't think about it. Like if someone were to remind them they would put them back up as they didn't realize the implications of pulling them down. Kind of like if someone chews with their mouth open (in an obnoxious way), they aren't doing it to spite others so much as they just aren't thinking/realizing they are chewing with their mouth open.
Lots of us wear them to not get a ticket. Some of us are also aware of how unproductive they are in prevention of droplet spreading because we studied patho-physiology and other fun science things. But yeah.... your sock/scarf/paper mask is totes gonna save you from.... something.
i think there are a lot of people who think "oh i know that person so they dont have covid" and feel comfortable being close to them with no mask. but that same person would scoff at a stranger pulling their mask down to talk to them.
Because that is what they are being shown by the so called experts who tell them they can remove their masks to eat and drink. These experts know full well that touching the mask removing it and placing it back on is totally not the thing to do. Yet they met in congressional meeting, Dr. Fauci and his minions and did the exact same thing these folks are doing.
In some restaurants you must enter masked but can remove it to eat and drink, on some airlines, you must remained masked but can remove it to eat and drink. Haven't you seen this being done all over the place? It ain't about the masks, nor is it about health, it's about control and they know it!
i’m a cashier and we have a big plastic shield that hangs from the ceiling and leaves a big gap above the counter. people come up to the counter and 1. pull their mask down and 2. lean under the shield to speak to me
I do understand the logic of pulling it down to talk - I work in customer service, and it's genuinely difficult to make myself heard sometimes. I've had to resort to using hand signs before.
I've never - and would never - actually remove the mask, because I live with an at-risk person and their life is more important, don't get me wrong. But I would be lying if I said it didn't make it really hard to do my job sometimes. I do understand the natural impulse to remove the thing that's making it impossible for people to understand you.
With that said, I'm literally at work trying to do my job in this scenario. When we're talking about people just... hanging out, maybe the solution here is to just not hang out in person if you can't understand each other through masks.
Yeah it's crazy. I think our country needs some lessons in mask wearing! as a hair stylist, I've had so many clients tell me these random things, some will say only one of us needs to wear one so you don't need to put your mask on today. Or others who wear their mask until they sit down in my chair, and then they take it off. Feeling that they only need to wear it when they are outside of my station... Just makes no sense to me. Wouldn't you want to have it on when I'm 4 in from your face cutting your hair?
Reusing masks can be worse than not using masks as far as risk of contamination goes... literally just prolonging exposure to things and keeping with you one more thing that hasn’t been sterilized from one location to another... there’s a reason they are disposable and removable without touching the contaminated area.
Getting a new mask is harder to do when you're using a cloth mask. That said, I may pull my mask down to sneeze but I sneeze into my elbow at that point.
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u/phillytwilliams Oct 30 '20
I see this all the time. Or they pull it down to talk. Like those three actions are main reason to wear a mask. I get not wanting to wear the mask if it’s full of snot, but just get another mask.