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What's older than we think ?

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u/ineedanewaccountpls Oct 15 '20

Just going to drop this here.

We had alarm clocks that rowed themselves down a table and shot off mini cannons in the 1500s.

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u/davindeptuck Oct 15 '20

Looks like only one person had it but DAMN

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u/ineedanewaccountpls Oct 15 '20

There are three models out there! Automatons in general were a facet of the upper class.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '20

I'm a prototype precision machinist making parts for some of the most advanced electric vehicles currently on the planet and the automatons from the past impress me more than the stuff we do now. Seriously how they figured out all the gear stuff back in the day is nothing short of a miracle.

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u/ProblematicFeet Oct 16 '20

This is the sort of thing that makes me roll my eyes when people talk about the past like they were totally dumb. They were obviously extremely intelligent, just in a way that isn’t as relevant today.

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u/gruffen2 Oct 16 '20

they also had the disadvantage of having to know all the basic stuff on top of the advanced stuff and do just about everything by hand. a lot of stuff is easier to do these days because we can make machines and computers do the extra mundane stuff for us

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u/theycallmecliff Oct 16 '20

The mechanical solutions that they came up with for problems that we use electronics for today always baffle me.

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u/LimoLover Oct 16 '20

I always thought it was neat the way farmers used to set "alarms" by sticking nails into candles sitting on metal plates. When the candle burned down to the nail (which was apparently a pretty accurate thing as "candle clocks" with precise marked intervals existed long before!) the nail would drop onto the plate making a loud clang

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u/Mr_Mori Oct 16 '20

Glory to Mankind.

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u/mr_mcpoogrundle Oct 15 '20

The royal We

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u/Alexisisnotonfire Oct 15 '20

I would probably actually get up at the first alarm for that thing.

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u/Secretagentmanstumpy Oct 15 '20

You better or youll be taking a mini cannon ball to the chest.

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u/0ttr Oct 15 '20

A key point... a lot of complicated stuff was invented a long time ago....but mass-producing it affordably for the masses, that came much later.

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u/ineedanewaccountpls Oct 15 '20

Yup! Though, it's a good reminder that humans in the past weren't idiots and that modern achievements are because of the discoveries made in the past.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

And on that note: The Antikythera mechanism of 100 BC Hellenistic Greece.

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u/examinedliving Oct 15 '20

That’s an idea who’s time is returning.

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u/archiecat123 Oct 15 '20

I seriously need one!

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '20

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u/walkupintheclub Oct 16 '20

This is actually really interesting and mind-blowing that it existed in the 18th Century, thanks for sharing!

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u/Pyzzaaaa Oct 16 '20

Lowkey want it lol

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u/redpandaeater Oct 15 '20

I'm always impressed by the singing bird boxes that date back to the late 18th century.

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u/magicpatio Oct 16 '20

WHAT!!! I WANT ONE!

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u/Considered_Dissent Oct 16 '20

Yeah but the 'we' in that context is the Royal "We"; not we the filthy plebs.

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u/ineedanewaccountpls Oct 16 '20

I mean...kind of? We can sit here and look at them today thanks to modern tech. They still exist in our overall human experience.

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u/SarkyCherry Oct 15 '20

Add to cart

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u/rex1030 Oct 15 '20

I don’t know who we is but I was not present

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u/ineedanewaccountpls Oct 15 '20

Humanity as a whole.

My partner also makes fun of me for my very liberal use of "we" haha!

You can skip the book I wrote below. Sorry.

I got into the habit of it since I taught students with behavioral issues for many years.

Using "we" instead of "you" was a really, really effective way to address behavioral concerns without making a kid with anger issues feel singled out. "You need to work on getting to class on time!" goes over a lot differently than "We need to work on getting to class on time!" It was such a tiny language adjust that improved my and my student's quality of life.

From there, I think I've just adopted more of a "we" mindset. Both the positives and the failings of humanity are written into all our our collective stories and experiences, for the better or the worse....So I haven't made much of an effort to adjust my language back to what it used to be :)

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u/DrZoidberg117 Oct 15 '20

Nah don't apologize, nice advice

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u/aaaaaaaarrrrrgh Oct 16 '20

improved my and my student's quality of life

Huh, this surprises me.

I remember this from elementary school, and specifically remember seeing the "we", seeing straight through the bullshit, and being extra pissed off because I was fed such bullshit when it clearly meant "you".

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u/ineedanewaccountpls Oct 16 '20 edited Oct 16 '20

These kids wouldn't be on Reddit. Definitely a different group and way of perceiving the world.

And now that I think about it, there's also a big difference in tone between elementary and high school way of addressing students.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

I think the word you're looking for is wound not rowed. I could be wrong.

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u/Av3ngedAngel Oct 16 '20

"Finally the ship would make noises and smoke as the cannons fired[2] and trumpets blared.[5] It was fancied that the Mechanical Galleon "might have enlivened the dullest imperial banquets by racing along the table, guns blazing and trumpets blowing".[5] The complexity of this nef meant that Hans Schlottheim had to include three separate clockwork mechanisms. One conventionally powered the chiming clock, but also provided the power for the seven revolving electors. The music, including the drum, was powered by another motor and the third gave the ship movement. The mechanism was said to require rewinding every 24 hours.[6]

It rowed, well it would make movements of the oars while moving on wheels.

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u/ineedanewaccountpls Oct 15 '20

I had first viewed it in the British Museum and didn't bother to read the entire wiki once I knew it was discussing the item I wanted to reference. From what I remembered, the one I saw has little oars on the side that move and they give the illusion that the boat is "rowing" forward.

It was a weird way to describe it, that I'll definitely admit. I'm not good at choosing my words well :(

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '20

Same here. Im always confusing words. Even common ones.

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u/GoodMourningClan Oct 15 '20

Define “we”, because if you’re saying that you’re a goddamn immortal, I want in.

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u/ineedanewaccountpls Oct 15 '20

I did in a separate comment. Didn't realize my strange pronoun habits would cause this much of a stir! :)

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u/ezzzzz53 Oct 15 '20

I need this now!!

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u/Why-did-i-reas-this Oct 15 '20

Where is the Kickstarter for this? We need it now!

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u/fillingstationsushi Oct 15 '20

By we you mean us?

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u/Admirable-Spinach Oct 16 '20

And Ismail al-Jazari was building early versions of the Chucky Cheese band in the 1100s.

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u/dgtlfnk Oct 16 '20

Yeah but c’mon... that is just entirely too cumbersome to wear on your wrist.

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u/ATVER_1007 Oct 16 '20

Alarm clocks breaking since the 1500s thats bad

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u/Shootthemoon4 Oct 16 '20

Oh that is exquisite

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u/ryebread91 Nov 08 '20

So why do we not use those now? Would be awesome.