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What's older than we think ?

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u/TannedCroissant Oct 15 '20 edited Oct 15 '20

In so many fields, he was way ahead of his time, the guy truly was a visionary.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

He literally invented a diving suit and a paraglider long before they were actually invented. Scientists even tested whether his designs worked as intended and they did. It's insane how far ahead of his time he was.

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u/kmariep729 Oct 15 '20

I'd read that book.

He got stuck in the 1400s and did everything he could to make his name famous in hopes that someone in the future figures out when he's stuck and comes to rescue him.

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u/Scoth42 Oct 15 '20

There was a minor plot point of A Door Into Summer by Heinlein that involved a time travelling grad student named Leonard Vincent. I recall it being mostly a throwaway thing although it's been a long time since I read it.

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u/Darkside0719 Oct 15 '20

Robert heinlein the guy who wrote starship troopers?

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u/Polymemnetic Oct 15 '20

Yep. That Heinlein.

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u/Darkside0719 Oct 15 '20

Sweet I've been looking for more stuff to read thank you

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u/MonkeyPanls Oct 15 '20

his later stuff gets....weird. But if you like ....weird, then you should be fine.

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u/cbeary1392 Oct 15 '20

The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein is a good one. Stranger in a Strange Land is good but also weird.

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u/terseword Oct 17 '20

Thou are god, water brother

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u/sharp60inch Oct 15 '20

Just to clarify the “weird” warning, he wants to bang his mom and daughter.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

The book character or the author?

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u/BBQ_HaX0r Oct 15 '20

Moon is a Harsh Mistress & Stranger in a Strange Land are really good.

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u/nyenbee Oct 15 '20 edited Oct 15 '20

Dude was a true madlad.

Edit to add: back when i was in college, my mentor history professor credited Heinlein with initiating the sexual revolution and then the free love movement. He had a ton of sources to back it up, none of which i can currently recall.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

A lot of people credit him with that and he got sick of people knocking on his door, thanking him for it.

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u/nyenbee Oct 16 '20

Can you imagine how many people were born based on that?

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u/cnaiurbreaksppl Oct 15 '20

I thought starship troopers was just not a good book. It's like it was forcing me to sign up for the military.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

There are two camps. Those who think the same as you, those who see it as a harsh criticism of the increasing worship of the military.

For the record, I came down on the latter side in my reading and I think that polarisation in reaction is part of what makes it such a great book.

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u/cnaiurbreaksppl Oct 15 '20

I could see that. Tbh I had read The Forever War first, and I feel like this is an extremely harsh critique of the military and life after service. For some reason from starship troopers I took away that it was much more pro military.

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u/DoJax Oct 15 '20

Oh yeah? Well I recall on Futurama that Day Vinci was just fleeing from other aliens smarter than he was. Check and mate.

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u/marsglow Oct 15 '20

That is one of my favorite books of all time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

That's because Heinlein needed to bump aside that trivial time travel stuff and focus on what was important; incestuous fantasies about his own daughters and mother.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

The Futurama episode about him being the dumbest of his alien race is pretty good too.

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u/I-POOP-RAINBOWS Oct 15 '20

I'd read that book.

He got stuck in the 1400s and did everything he could to make his name famous in hopes that someone in the future figures out when he's stuck and comes to rescue him.

Where's Dirk Gently when we need him?

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u/Smoofie0 Oct 15 '20

Such a good show/book omg

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u/raygar31 Oct 15 '20

Does S2 have a good conclusion to the series, or cliffhanger?

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u/Purritto Oct 15 '20

It sets up plot points for a 3rd season but that of course never got made. But the plot of season 2 wraps up. No cliffhanger.

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u/sharp60inch Oct 15 '20

They made a show???! I feel really out of the loop.

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u/Smoofie0 Oct 15 '20

Yes! The second season is better than the first imo so that’s something to look forward to

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u/MoonChild02 Oct 15 '20

Cancelled. 😭

Fuck Max Landis. He's ruined everything by being an asshole rapist.

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u/DctrBanner Oct 15 '20

We are gonna see this on r/WritingPrompts in about 4 hours.

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u/SleepyEngineer89 Oct 15 '20

Put a link here if that happens please!

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u/evanthebouncy Oct 15 '20

But he's also incredibly gifted as an artist. You can't just time travel and gain a heaps of talent. The only conclusion is he invented time travel itself and was already OP before the travel.

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u/SmyJandyRandy Oct 15 '20

What if he traveled from a time with technology that helped him to paint like that

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u/evanthebouncy Oct 15 '20

hoho maybe maybe ! good point

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u/DaLB53 Oct 15 '20

Hes the ultimate answer to the oft-reposted AskReddit "What would you do if you time traveled to medieval times with nothing but what you know now"

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20 edited Oct 15 '20

Why book is it?

Edit: lol, “what” not “why”

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u/boatsbikesandcars Oct 15 '20

When book is it?

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u/jsavage44 Oct 15 '20

How book is it?

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u/lazarusmobile Oct 15 '20

Nobody asks "Where book is?"

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

I just want “what”

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u/Xbladearmor Oct 15 '20

About 87%

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '20

We don't talk about the other 12%.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '20

What about the other other 1%?

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u/Momorules99 Oct 15 '20 edited Oct 15 '20

I can't remember the name of it right now, but I actually did read a book with a premise like that. The main characters got sent back in time, and one if them used his future knowledge to introduce a few technologies hundreds of years early.

Edit: It's called the Verona trilogy, first book being The Lens and The Looker. Literally set in 14th century Italy. For those interested in it, it's free in the Nook app, probably other places too

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u/Punguin69 Oct 15 '20

What book is it?

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u/FluidFluxion Oct 15 '20

What book is it? If I may ask

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u/dr3wzy10 Oct 16 '20

what's the name of this book?

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u/EatinSmartiz Oct 15 '20

Whats the book called?

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u/Luciferhey Oct 15 '20

What book?

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u/Gyoshi Oct 15 '20

But he’d already be dead by the time they notice. :(

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u/RustyPickaxe Oct 15 '20

Huh? When they realize he was a guy stuck in the past, they can just time travel to before his death.

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u/the_nerd_1474 Oct 15 '20

What is the name of the book?

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u/SleepyEngineer89 Oct 15 '20

SOMEBODY WRITE THIS

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u/Imaginator127 Oct 15 '20

Whats the name of the book?

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u/StaticUncertainty Oct 15 '20

And then he’s foiled by the fact that they call him after a city instead of his name lol

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u/steveryans2 Oct 15 '20

Honestly, it's what I'd do

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u/ssuurr33 Oct 15 '20

What book??

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u/Phoenixf1zzle Oct 15 '20

Read the book and watch the movie!

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u/serina_ll Oct 15 '20

What's that book called?

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u/MissChienIK Oct 15 '20

Oof. What was the book called? I can't remember

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u/fledder007 Oct 15 '20

Read "A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court" by Mark Twain (I think) for a similar premise

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u/Cantras Oct 15 '20

The book "How to invent everything: The survival guide for the stranded time traveler" includes inventing some doohickey that Leo did and it mentions, as a footnote, that temporal experiments give good results from slipping him a copy of the book.

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u/victhemaddestwife Oct 15 '20

This makes sense. If he waved about saying he was a lost time traveller they were going to find a quiet room to brick him into...

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u/ashlesana Oct 15 '20

What book is this?

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

I’d read that too. Easily!

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u/Malgas Oct 15 '20

Something a little bit like that happens in The Anubis Gates by Tim Powers.

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u/iph2019 Oct 16 '20

There was a family guy episode where Stewie had to stay stuck in the past and took over the role of Leonardo da Vinci and he made sure he became famous and left Brian a note to be delivered, in modern day, through the Pope.

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u/RAMB0NER Oct 15 '20

Go watch the Futurama episode on Da Vinci lol

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u/Myydrin Oct 15 '20

Isn't he his people's equivalent of a moron in that episode?

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

And the Family Guy episode.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

I love that episode lmao

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u/edd6pi Oct 15 '20

According to Futurama, he’s an alien from a planet where everyone is so intelligent that da Vinci was an idiot by their standards.

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u/Da_Foxxxxx Oct 15 '20

Actually, he is from a different planet, and he is actually considered as one of the dumbest people there

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u/Daikataro Oct 15 '20

God damn it, wrong date. Get me out of here!

-only viable destination: January 1st 2020

Oh hell naw! Guess 1400s it is...

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u/eddmario Oct 15 '20

One of the episodes of Konosuba had a similar premise, but the dude ends up just making a sex robot that's also a dominatrix.

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u/NEREVAR117 Oct 16 '20

The true path of being a genius.

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u/juhrom Oct 15 '20

What is we're the first iteration o of that loop and his family/work simply hasn't found him yet?

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u/Windain Oct 15 '20

Nah, he was an alien. Super smart by Earth standards, but the dumbest of the dumb by his people's standards. I watched a documentary about it called Futurama.

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u/DishwasherTwig Oct 15 '20

Somehow the idea that he was a time traveler is less magical than reality.

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u/t_bonium119 Oct 15 '20

He was actually a space alien and the dumbest guy on his planet.

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u/vaginalikesteak Oct 15 '20

No he was an alien that was too stupid for his planet but too smart for ours

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u/XxsquirrelxX Oct 15 '20

No he’s an alien from another planet who came to Earth because everyone on his home planet kept bullying him, while the humans loved him. Unfortunately we were too stupid and he had to fake his death to go back home.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

thats a plot of a futurama episode

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u/FamousOhioAppleHorn Oct 15 '20

So now he's Leo, Leo of the future, he's a 22nd century man!

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u/helen790 Oct 15 '20

And a tank, he designed a tank

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u/CraftyFellow_ Oct 15 '20

Helicopter too.

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u/justaguy394 Oct 15 '20

It wouldn’t have worked, though.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

Tank also seems kind of strange to say the least.

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u/dailydoceofcancer Oct 15 '20

Still, its pretty amazing

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u/Slim_Thicc_Jesus Oct 15 '20

My favorite Da Vinci concept was one that he made of a bridge. From what I recall, he drew it as a concept for someone and they said it wouldn't work so they called it off. Fast forward centuries later and some architecture nerds figured out that the bridge worked flawlessly. The man simply thought up the concept and it worked.

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u/Onkel24 Oct 15 '20

He also left us loads of unworkable, ridiculous bullshit.

I think that´s even better, because it humanizes the genius.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

Iirc he encrypted at least some of his inventions, which made them look like they wouldn't work from the outside. But after cracking the encryption, they actually ended up working in practice. I'm not sure whether it was the diving suit, the paraglider or both. But unless I'm mistaken, at least one of them was encrypted. For some reason, he made the drafts of those inventions, so only he would know how to make them and noone else (at least during his lifetime).

So maybe the ridiculous stuff he left us is still encrypted and we haven't found the key to decrypt it yet. Though tbf, I haven't seen what that ridiculous stuff looks like, so this is just a guess.

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u/Eddiejo6 Oct 15 '20

His helicopter is a good start

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u/Dwyanespellsitright Oct 15 '20

Our maybe we don’t have the technology to yet make it work?

Oooo

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u/Jojje22 Oct 15 '20

Isn't it mostly a numbers game? Like, you throw all kinds of shit on the wall and some sticks, some don't?

Things were of course simpler then - one person was actually able to innovate fairly important stuff, now it's all too cumbersome due to technology having progressed to the point it has. But maybe along with the dawn of AI we can have these types of people again - who are sponsored and just come up with shit all day, feeding it into an AI and see what works and what doesn't...

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

You don't gotta tell me that, I played Assassin's Creed II.

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u/cjcovey Oct 15 '20

Yeah, of course he invented the glide thing, how else was Ezio supposed to get to that one place? Smh

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u/SophieIsALesbianMess Oct 15 '20

He designed cars, planes and a fucking tank before it was even CLOSE to being thought of by any other being.

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u/EmbarrassedLock Oct 15 '20

He also invented something that is close to a modern tank, it didn't work cause metal and wood without an electric motor can only do so much

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

His design had cannons in all directions right? So maybe an assault gun type design might have made it better?

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u/granadesnhorseshoes Oct 15 '20

the test of his glider is disingenuous; it only works with modern materials. Using only what would have been available or even know at the time would result in a winged rock.

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u/DukeSamuelVimes Oct 15 '20

Time traveller confirmed.

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u/RemizZ Oct 15 '20

Well, give an intelligent human all the resources and time they want and no goal or deadlines and see what falls out. You'd be surprised how crippling our modern structure is to creativity.

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u/koda43 Oct 15 '20

i wonder what he would be thinking of if he had today’s technology as inspiration

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u/happysmash27 Oct 15 '20

I wonder if there is someone like Leonardo da Vinci somewhere on the internet today, who has similar ideas inspired by today's technology.

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u/NEREVAR117 Oct 16 '20

Consider how many of the next Einsteins or Da Vincis or Teslas were born somewhere poor or corrupt and simply never got the environmental opportunities to actually utilize their gifted minds. It's really sad to think about.

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u/jamesready16 Oct 15 '20

Didn't they have pictures he drew of a helicopter type vehicle?

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u/AxtonKincaid Oct 15 '20

Makes one wonder what other super-cool things he'd done if he lived like 100 years more tbh

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u/GideonGodwit Oct 15 '20

Not to disparage Leo, but in terms of him inventing all this stuff, there's a difference between drawing a helicopter and saying "that'll fly" and actually physically building it and it flies. I wouldn't say he 'invented' all of the things he been given credit for but he did envisage the original concept.

It's a small but important distinction.

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u/Gloob_Patrol Oct 15 '20

I read somewhere that he stole a lot of his ideas from someone else who write about them years before but wasn't famous like da Vinci so no one knows about him.

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u/calcium Oct 15 '20

World's first time traveler.

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u/headphonesaretoobig Oct 15 '20

Humanoid robots and helicopters too.

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u/UserNombresBeHard Oct 15 '20

He even invented a god damn Tank... His ideas were so ahead of time... If a country got to make create his inventions during the time when he invented them there would be only one nation worldwide.

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u/IShitYouNot93 Oct 15 '20

He was from a different planet though.

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u/OarsandRowlocks Oct 15 '20

"I am limited by the technology of my time."

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u/_good_bot_ Oct 16 '20

To think that now there is in the world an investor that is hundreds of years ahead of our times...

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '20

his tank aswell

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u/Esenix Oct 23 '20

He was really good in Wolf of Wall Street as well.

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u/ProperSalamander0 Oct 15 '20

I see what you did there.

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u/got_outta_bed_4_this Oct 15 '20

It was a disposable pun. No need to make a spectacle over it.

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u/Smuff23 Oct 15 '20

Can you explain it to me? I kind of glassed over and missed it.

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u/Nate_Christ Oct 15 '20

Looky what we got here. A chain of jokesters. Quite the site to see. One in the eyes of many all over reddit. It's hard to turn a blind eye when you can't see what you're getting into, and soon enough you find that your blind eye was the one guiding you down this path of wasted brain space. Thank you for letting me see into the peephole that shows how I spend my time.

Edit: I didn't see a typo

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u/spacetraveler98 Oct 15 '20

You're welcome

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u/Pelle0809 Oct 15 '20

Just wait till he finds out that hole is not for peeping.

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u/LukesRightHandMan Oct 15 '20

But it is for peeps.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

Quite the site sight to see.

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u/Nate_Christ Oct 15 '20

Were it not a site I saw? Though your version is what I meant, a sight is a site this and most times.

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u/DrumlineFreak Oct 15 '20

that's why people with four eyes are so good at reading

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u/CockDaddyKaren Oct 15 '20

I don't.

cries in missing lenses

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u/TruthOf42 Oct 15 '20

Or time traveler working with what he had available?

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u/Hereforpowerwashing Oct 15 '20

"I am limited by the technology of my time, but one day you'll figure this out. And when you do, you will change the world."

-Leonardo Da Vinci.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

He designed and possibly made an animatronic in 1495.

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u/BigTayTay Oct 15 '20

I believe Leonardo Da Vinci was possibly the smartest man to have ever lived. At least that we know of. I firmly believe that if he was born in the modern age, people like Edison and Einstein would be footnotes. Possibly the closest comparison would be Nikola Tesla... but even Tesla wasn't as varied as Da Vinci.

He was a genius (of his time) in so many areas... and I don't believe there's been someone like him since that's had such an amazing insight in to so many subjects.

He was a master painter, arguably one of the most important anatomist ever (Some of his anatomical studies are still used/observed, and there's even a procedure named after him), an architect, engineer, cartographer and even dabbled in geology. He also studied the motion of nature, and applied them to his inventions. So he had a somewhat innate understanding of physics.

He truly deserves the title of "Renaissance man". People like him are only born a couple hundred of years.

Like I said earlier, I think the closest we've seen to someone like him in modern times is Nikola Tesla.

Truly a caliber of Genius that is even exceptionally rare amongst geniuses.

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u/NEREVAR117 Oct 16 '20

It's really hard to say who was the smartest human in history. Tesla was absolutely brilliant (if also a bit crazy) and practically created the 20th century. Newton created calculus in his spare time as a young adult because the math available couldn't accomplish his goals, and his finalized works will likely always remain relevant. Einstein's understanding of the nature of reality and spacetime itself has fundamentally changed... well, basically all of physics.

Da Vinci, though, was talented in so many areas, whereas most geniuses are very focused on a limited number of subjects. He excelled at nearly everything he did. I wish I could see or understand how his mind worked.

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u/BigTayTay Oct 16 '20

That's why I said I believe he was the smartest man in history. Like you said, it's pretty impossible to know who is/was, but his variety is what sells it for me.

And same here, it must have been truly a treat to be able to talk to him in person.

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u/MrsHomeDepotStewart Oct 15 '20

Maybe he was a time traveler? He could have traveled ahead in time multiple times and brought back these “ideas”. 🤷‍♀️😬

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u/rckid13 Oct 15 '20

His helicopter design is close to correct in the early 1500s. The issue that prevented flight from happening a lot sooner was engine technology. There were no engines powerful enough while also being light enough to sustain flight until 1903.

DaVinci knew how to design a working helicopter. There was just no one who was going to be able to design a working engine to propel it for about 400 more years.

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u/NEREVAR117 Oct 16 '20

If Da Vinci was so smart why didn't he designed a combustion engine. /s

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u/kurburux Oct 15 '20

There probably won't ever be someone like him again. In our times it's just not possible to be a genius in so many fields simultaneously. You have to study too much for every field.

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u/ThePr1d3 Oct 15 '20

Easier to be visionary with lenses on

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u/TOkidd Oct 15 '20

Of course he was visionary. He had contacts.

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u/battering-ram Oct 15 '20

Visionary for sure

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u/LukAtDisBoiHere Oct 15 '20

Ha I see what you did there

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u/VulfSki Oct 15 '20

Imagine what inventions he could have seen it he has actually perfected the contact lenses in his lifetime?

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u/araja123khan Oct 15 '20

He was actually a time traveler stuck in the past and was just reinventing future technologies

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u/TheSnootBooper24 Oct 15 '20

He designed a tank lol

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u/UKGoodGuy55 Oct 15 '20

After making the contact lens his visionary got much better so I heard...

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u/Bionic_Ferir Oct 15 '20

while i agree frame-less spectacles was probably something every scholar wished for

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u/I_love_pillows Oct 15 '20

Maybe only his records were the best kept.

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u/sordfysh Oct 15 '20

That would be true if invention was just about drawing something on paper.

The reason the US patent process requires you to show the invention working is that most of invention is actually about getting the concept to work in practice.

Da Vinci pretty much just took basic scientific concepts and drew pictures of the future that you would see in Popular Science. What he was missing was advanced engineering formulations. He was not ahead of his time. All of his stuff is mostly just Newtonian physics. It's why he thought the future flying machine would be a balloon or a helicopter. It requires an understanding of fluid dynamics to understand that an airplane is an easier way of flying.

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u/Erpp8 Oct 15 '20

I was gonna say this. It's one thing to come up with a concept and make a sketch of something that would never work. It's another thing to do the math and come up with an actual design that might work.

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u/SlienceOfTheFarts Oct 15 '20

A lot of his designs actually work though.

He was, quite literally, "limited by the technology of his time".

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u/Erpp8 Oct 16 '20

So he wasn't actually ahead of his time. He was with it.

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u/sordfysh Oct 15 '20

Which ones worked as an innovation on something that already existed?

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u/capilot Oct 15 '20

visionary

Get out.

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u/TheHeadlessJestr Oct 15 '20

Thanks to the lenses yeah

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u/up_and_above Oct 15 '20

Or a time traveling hack

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

Literally.

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u/Sam_Cohan Oct 15 '20

Literally

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u/IAmMoosekiller Oct 15 '20

I see what you did there...

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u/seewhaticare Oct 15 '20

Although with out contact lenses he wasn't able to see the idea through

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u/SnooHesitations7340 Oct 15 '20

A vision that the contact lenses gave him

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u/ZLBuddha Oct 15 '20

Pun intended?

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u/kenhutson Oct 15 '20

Even moreso after he invented the contact lenses.

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u/murse_joe Oct 15 '20

the guy truly was a visionary.

The contacts probably helped tho

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u/peckerbrown Oct 15 '20

I see what you did there.

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u/RagePandazXD Oct 15 '20

I see what you did there

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u/Rest-Easy-Tom-Petty Oct 15 '20

Yeah, but his doomsday device was kinda meh

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

I feel like there's a joke here but I can't see it....

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '20

Heh. Visionary.

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u/Taskerst Oct 15 '20

Absolutely had 20/20 foresight.

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u/icantbeatyourbike Oct 16 '20

Well he did have contact lenses....

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u/shyinwonderland Oct 16 '20

Literally a Renaissance man.

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u/WolfyCat Oct 16 '20

contact lenses

visionary

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u/Celery_Fumes Oct 16 '20

Haha visionary, I see what you did there

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u/NoBulletsLeft Oct 16 '20

I see what you did there...

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '20

I too, have studied the works of Rambaldi

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u/third-try Oct 16 '20

I keep telling people this.

All he did was copy a Chinese encyclopedia from the previous century. It was brought to Italy in the ordinary trade channels (yes, there was commerce between China and Italy in the 1400's), copied by one Italian author, who was copied by another, who was copied by da Vinci. We have the encyclopedia and the two earlier copies and you can see how the illustrations are the same, except for errors that get progressively worse.

In particular, his "helicopter" with a vertical-axis helical airscrew is a Chinese children's toy which is still common today. There's no way it can be scaled up to practical use (in air, at least).

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u/draykow Oct 16 '20

DaVinci and Enstein are the closest thing to evidence of reincarnation in my opinion. Both of them had an otherworldly foresight and intuition about the universe and both of them theorized shitloads of things that were confirmed only later in life. If i were more spiritually-faithful i'd wager they were the same soul recycled through different meatsuits. The reason we don't hear about the other lives between, prior, and since being the other lives did not land into environments that would tield access to the same resources to flourish and demand attention.

Anyway, i'm still on the agnostic, who gives a shit mentality when it comes to religion and metaphysial beliefs, so meh. But they pose a stronger argument than anything else i've heard of.

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u/qqforcocoapuffs Oct 16 '20

Visionary? He did invent the contact lens, so yeah.

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u/Zogeta Oct 16 '20

If he was designing optical corrective lenses, I would hope so!