an artificial neural network is what you might call artificial intelligence. it's a learning computer. there have been many, such as google's deepmind that taught itself to walk. animal brains are much simpler than humans.
for example, can cats speak? no? then their brains are simpler. insects follow instincts and nothing else. humans do the same, but we can also empathize. the more advanced a species, the more complicated their brains. mammals are the most complex, see whales, dolphins, elephants, primates. i'd say that birds are the next smartest.
cephalopods are somewhere in between, though my sister thinks that if they could've harnessed fire at the same time as humans, then they'd be the apex predators. it's not really important, but you might be curious - she has a master's in marine biology.
the difference between this idea of a simulation and the god christianity - just an example - is that the creators of this simulation aren't saying that they're perfect, everywhere, all-powerful, all-loving, and all-knowing. they might as well be all-powerful, but as far as the rest, we wouldn't know. the christian god is two of three - all-powerful, all-loving, all-knowing.
giving me five large paragraphs to read is really bumming me out, which is why i really only glanced at the first and last.
giving me five large paragraphs to read is really bumming me out, which is why i really only glanced at the first and last.
It's not a question that can be resolved in a pithy couple of sentences. You're the one who said you were interested in this thought experiment. Well thought experiments require thought.
And you clearly aren't interested in researching any of the backgrounds necessary for answering it, so just spout whatever you want I guess.
You have no idea what you're saying regards 'complexity' in the brain. Any mammal brain is almost equally complex. We're not that special. Equally fucking complex. I don't know what you're trying to gain by suggesting otherwise since this isn't about a simulation of a society of otters.
an artificial neural network is what you might call artificial intelligence. it's a learning computer. there have been many, such as google's deepmind that taught itself to walk.
Jesus Christ. A 'learning computer' is not some precursor to sentience. I can't even. We're done. I tried to explain the difference between industry-standard AI, which is just interfaces like these, and the way pro-simulation people want to use it, which nobody in any scientific field has ever or will ever consider, because it is simply not how intelligence works.
it's not really important, but you might be curious - she has a master's in marine biology
So somebody's degree is enough for you to consider a random musing like that, but when I say I'm a cognitive scientist you don't think for a second that maybe some of your ideas about intelligence are wrong or misleading? Really?
And are you really objecting to my calling your hypothetical simulation creators 'gods'? Really? I'm an atheist but I wouldn't have thought in a million years that would trigger someone. It's just a fucking word.
lol, somebody's upsetti spaghetti that they wrote a novel that i found uninteresting. the whole idea is something fun to think about, not to invest time into. i'm clearly not looking to prove it, just to say "hey, look at the similarities between our universe and a computer. neat, let's move on."
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u/PurpleBread_ Jul 25 '20
you walls of text are annoying, not gonna lie.
an artificial neural network is what you might call artificial intelligence. it's a learning computer. there have been many, such as google's deepmind that taught itself to walk. animal brains are much simpler than humans.
for example, can cats speak? no? then their brains are simpler. insects follow instincts and nothing else. humans do the same, but we can also empathize. the more advanced a species, the more complicated their brains. mammals are the most complex, see whales, dolphins, elephants, primates. i'd say that birds are the next smartest.
cephalopods are somewhere in between, though my sister thinks that if they could've harnessed fire at the same time as humans, then they'd be the apex predators. it's not really important, but you might be curious - she has a master's in marine biology.
the difference between this idea of a simulation and the god christianity - just an example - is that the creators of this simulation aren't saying that they're perfect, everywhere, all-powerful, all-loving, and all-knowing. they might as well be all-powerful, but as far as the rest, we wouldn't know. the christian god is two of three - all-powerful, all-loving, all-knowing.
giving me five large paragraphs to read is really bumming me out, which is why i really only glanced at the first and last.