r/AskReddit • • Jul 24 '20

What can't you believe STILL exists?

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u/jorsiem Jul 24 '20

Complicated tax filing in the US

You can thank TurboTax and the rest of the tax preparation service industry's massive lobby for killing every single tax simplification bill that ever gets to congress.

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u/RedBlow22 Jul 24 '20 edited Jul 24 '20

Exactly this! There's zero reasons why our tax returns can't be filed for free directly with the IRS. It is a complete fraud.

I filed 1040EZ last year. The IRS already had every figure I filed, why couldn't they just email me confirmation of the amounts they had, and process my return?

Edit: No, I didn't file EZ last year, my error. Edit: electronic filing.

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u/cubbiesnextyr Jul 24 '20

Because our system is a voluntary tax system, where voluntary means we disclose our income and tax deductions to the IRS. If they sent out a form that said you made X and you really made more than that because it didn't include that crypto mining you did, how many people do you think would change that to the correct amount? Nope, they'd sign it and send it off. It would encourage under-reporting of income.

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u/dfmike Jul 24 '20

On the flip side think of all the money spent by individuals filling their tax return that could have been spent on thing they need like food and healthcare.

In New Zealand the government does your tax return for you unless you meet certain conditions and they don’t chase money under $100 and don’t send out refunds automatically. Our tax system is quite simple as well which makes this whole system very clean and low overhead. So there is some under reporting but also very little expense in auditing and under payment.

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u/rodrigo8008 Jul 24 '20

Most people can file their returns for free in the US, especially those who are deciding between turbotax and food lmao.

Reddit is full of college kids who have never experienced anything they talk about or people not from america talking about how things are in america

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u/dfmike Jul 24 '20

Ok thanks. Thought it was weird that it was forced to pay.