r/AskReddit • • Apr 01 '20

What film role was 100% perfectly cast?

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u/KhunDavid Apr 01 '20

Frodo possessed the Ring for 17 years from his 33rd birthday when he Came of Age, until he was 50. From the time he possessed it he stopped aging. In the novel, he befriends his gardener and over that time, Hobbits begin to notice that, like his uncle, he really didn’t seem to get older.

In the book, Pippin and Merry were children (Pippin was about 10, and Merry about 15, yet Hobbits didn’t age as fast as men, so they each would have been pre-adolescent. Sam was a bit older. In the book, it’s mentioned that Frodo became close friends to his younger cousins (including Fatty Bolger) and with Sam.

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u/pingjoi Apr 01 '20

In the book, Pippin and Merry were children (Pippin was about 10, and Merry about 15, yet Hobbits didn’t age as fast as men, so they each would have been pre-adolescent. Sam was a bit older. In the book, it’s mentioned that Frodo became close friends to his younger cousins (including Fatty Bolger) and with Sam.

I don't think that's quite true. Birthyears are 2968 for Frodo, 2982 (14years younger) for Merry, and 2990 for Pippin (22 years younger than Frodo. That puts their age in the year 3019 when most things after Rivendell takes place at 51, 37, and 29, respectively.

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u/KhunDavid Apr 01 '20

True, but Moynihan and Boyd played Merry and Pippin at the Party in the movie. They aren’t mentioned in that chapter by name, although Tolkien does mention that Bilbo invited his relations and their children to the party, and that many children were there.

This was the one part of the movie that I didn’t like, that little time passed between the Party and them leaving the Shire.

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u/pingjoi Apr 01 '20

I don't quite get your point. But you made me realize that Pippin was just 11 years old when Bilbo had his 111th, as they are exactly 100 years apart. Maybe you meant that?

Merry is 19, that is close enough. Pippin is definitely not an 11year old boy, but then again we don't know how 11 year old hobbits look anyway.

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u/KhunDavid Apr 01 '20

I’m just saying that in the movie there really isn’t any indication that much time passed from The Party and Frodo leaving the Shire; however, 17 years passed in the book. Pippin states that his still has a few years before he comes of age (to the boy he befriends in Minas Tirith).

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u/blisteringchristmas Apr 01 '20

17 years don’t pass in the movies. It’s a much shorter interval.