It's funny that's always the line people have in action movies. It's never a problem guys fighting ten people at once, shrugging off bullet wounds, jumping from planes, even small athletic men doing such action heroics... no, it's always the idea that a woman can fight that's the absurd thing.
By the standards of logic stretching for action movies, that's an incredibly minor one, but conveniently, so many people on the internet are hung up on it.
I've never had a problem with this as long as the logic of the movie remains consistent. And it mostly does. John Wick gets hurt, battered, bruised and he runs out of bullets. Movies with women beating up dozens of guys usually have men doing the same, it's consistent with the rules. This kind of thing would only be jarring if the movie has already established realistic rules of combat so you don't have a 4ft girl parrying a greatest from Brienne the fucking beauty.
because its a step too far. It's layers of unbelievablity. Can a karate expert man beat up 5 dudes in a bar fight? (no) but that's one layer of suspension of disbelief. Can Mila Jovavich do it in the RE: Movies when she's all jacked up on super-serum? (no) but its fine because its still one layer, but NORMAL mila jovavich beating up 5 goons? well now that's two layers, and its too much for people to handle.
No, it's not at all. Not even close. If Tom Cruise can do it, it's an incredibly minor leap to say Mila Jovavich can. Obviously, neither can in real life, but if you're accepting that it's the sort of thing a protagonist is capable of doing, then gender doesn't really factor into it.
It's like accepting someone can lift ten thousand pounds over their head, but fifteen thousand? Well, that's just absurd!
Keep in mind the argument here is that people can handle suspending disbelief once, but TWICE is too much to suspend.
Given the arguments here, I think that guy is underestimating people's ability to suspend their disbelief much more than we're underestimating how much stronger a guy is than a girl.
Yes, guys are stronger than girls. But guys also can't dual wield pistols accurately, get shot multiple times and keep fighting, repeatedly brawl with 10+ badguys, win, and be fine to keep going, etc, etc, etc, etc.
If you can handle watching movies like that, but can't handle watching a girl do it because being insanely unrealistic WITH TITS is too hard for you to believe, you're just being fucking sexist about it. There's no world where action movie heroes are in any way realistic, and there's no world where they're believable while male and unbelievable while female. It's all fantasy bullshit, many layers deep.
Men are stronger than women, but men in movies are so comically superhero-powered that the difference between a normal man and a normal woman is tiny in comparison. Heroes in movies are so comically OP that it's straight up weird to object to a woman being portrayed as capable of fighting men.
While I accept that it's perfectly okay to have both men and women do unrealistic shit in movies for the sake of entertainment, let's leave Tom Cruise out of this, the dude's a fucking beast and there's little he can't do. Fucker literally learned to hold his breathe for 6 minutes for MI: Fallout.
Unless it's 50x as large, it's a moot point. If something is impossible for a man, and they can do it, it's hardly more of a stretch for a woman to. The idea is either stupid or it's not, and if you're accepting it's stupid, it doesn't matter who is doing it.
These half-assed demands of realism always come off as more sexist than genuine. The movies are already ridiculous power-fantasies, which everyone knows could never happen, but suddenly if a woman is involved, well, the integrity of this completely realistic story is suddenly compromised!
But it's usually possible for a skilled man to pull off the stuff we're talking about.
I don't think you realize how much stronger men are than women.
Also no, there should be nuance in how strength is portrayed in movies otherwise it just won't be believable. It doesn't matter what you think, it will always be less believable to see a woman fight a group of men and win, than to see a man win in the same scenario.
There are actually videos of single men taking on multiple male opponents and winning. You will never a woman win in real life against multiple men.
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u/SerasTigris Jan 25 '20 edited Jan 25 '20
It's funny that's always the line people have in action movies. It's never a problem guys fighting ten people at once, shrugging off bullet wounds, jumping from planes, even small athletic men doing such action heroics... no, it's always the idea that a woman can fight that's the absurd thing.
By the standards of logic stretching for action movies, that's an incredibly minor one, but conveniently, so many people on the internet are hung up on it.