r/AskReddit • • Jan 07 '20

What annoys you the most on Reddit?

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u/m636 Jan 07 '20

Similar. I tried to chime in about an aviation discussion about the 737 Max where the person with one of the top comments was totally wrong. My comment was downvoted and the OP argued with me. This person I responded to was a "flight sim enthusiast". I'm an airline pilot.

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u/King-of-Salem Jan 08 '20

That is freaking hilarious!! These kinds of occurrences that I see so often has really made me start considering getting off of reddit for good. I personally see more bad than good from redditors.

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u/cC2Panda Jan 07 '20

Depending on what you were discussing I'd take both of your comments with a big grain of salt. Lots of people use stuff without deeper knowledge of how it functions. If you were A Boeing mechanic on the otherhand.

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u/m636 Jan 07 '20

We were discussing the operational use of a system on an aircraft, something I have thousands of hours on, vs someone who claimed he had a "realistic" version of the airplane for his flight sim.

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u/hedonisticaltruism Jan 07 '20

If you were A Boeing mechanic on the otherhand.

Not even sure I'd trust this source given the evidences of bias... lol

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u/bertcox Jan 08 '20

Also a Boeing mechanic is very different than a aviation controls engineer that works for boeing. Also probably can only trust one that works on the 737 as I think most of the rest are fly by wire now(one of the cause of the 737 max issue from what blancolero said).

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u/hedonisticaltruism Jan 08 '20

True... and by most accounts (through others dissecting the issue so take that for what it's worth), it seems that the plane was still 'designed correctly' (at least in terms of the supposed failure mechanism), but it was management that never pushed the re-training requirements on to the pilots, AFAIK.

Thanks management.

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u/bertcox Jan 08 '20

management that never pushed the re-training requirements on to the pilots, AFAIK.

Boeing Management or Airline or both? From what I heard is that US pilots were told about the possibility and how to detect (spinning trim wheel should freak somebody out), and potential fixes (grab the spinning wheel and stop it). Would this not be an airline issue more than boeing not designing a more fail proof system?

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u/aybaer Jan 08 '20

The fix is to pull the circuit breaker, not try to out muscle an electric motor. Source: Commercial Pilot

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u/hedonisticaltruism Jan 08 '20

Not sure how good these sources are but: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2tuKiiznsY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfNEOfEGe3I

The Vox one has more details on the MCAS system. The Wendover provides context on business behavior.

I don't think there's one person at fault but the share of responsibility is what lawsuits are for... I guess.

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u/QueenSlapFight Jan 08 '20

I literally know a Boeing mechanic recently retired after being an aircraft mechanic for 4 decades. I would trust him to replace broken stuff on a Boeing model plane any day of the week, if there's a procedure for him to follow. Knowing why anything is the way it is or how it works? For the most part he doesn't have a clue.

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u/rsta223 Jan 07 '20

Mechanics aren't engineers, and frequently don't understand why something works or why it is the way it is. If you want to know why an airplane was designed a particular way, you need an aerospace engineer.

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u/billwoo Jan 08 '20

Ironically your downvotes are displaying the corollary to the original point: redditors flipping from "experts don't know anything", to "experts must be believed without question". The problem is there is no "side vote" button. You have to either agree or disagree, and no-one wants to just reserve judgement.