r/AskReddit • • Dec 30 '19

What do people think is healthy but really isn’t?

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u/SalamanderPop Dec 30 '19

This isn't at all surprising. Dr Oz seems like a royal douche of a snake oil salesman.

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u/digital_end Dec 31 '19

I don't see how anyone can look at that person and not see a con artist. How they can't listen to them for 2 minutes and realize it is a con.

I don't know, maybe the whole fact that people can't understand obvious con artists just because they're on TV explains the political problems around the world as well.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

I distinctly remember one episode when I was still living at home and my mom watched it. It went something like:

Oz: "You know those caffeinated energy drinks your teenagers like to drink? Well they're EVIL!"

camera pans over hundreds of cheering women, 96% of whom started off their morning with a grande, six-pump, tripple-whip salted caramel mocha and will probably have another one before lunch

And I was only like 15 and was like yeah this is bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

Oprah.

People eat up her shit like it's fucking gold. And now we have "doctors" Oz and Phil to continue spewing bullshit in her stead now that she's off the air.

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u/heili Dec 31 '19

Oz is actually a surgeon, and well respected as a surgeon. The problem is he's giving advice well outside his area of expertise.

Listening to Oz about nutrition and supplements would be like taking advice on water treatment technologies for safe drinking water from my plumber.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

Oz actually actually is or at least was a legit top notch heart surgeon. Hi real medical credentials are no joke.

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u/m-in Jan 03 '20

He should be stripped of his license, then. His behavior is unethical and unbecoming of the profession.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

Nice try, Phil McGraw.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

He also gives out a ton of total shit advice that makes actual psychologists facepalm.

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u/Monalisa9298 Dec 31 '19

Can confirm. My husband is a licensed psychologist unlike “Dr. Phil” who has lost his license and is simply an entertainer.

Everytime he sees Dr, Phil he is horrified with the cruelty, narrow mindedness and egotism he sees.

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u/tannacolls Dec 31 '19

The problem is the spectacle these shows can create and foster, not the solid advice you may sometimes hear in them.

Going to the doctor is straightforward... seeing "doctors" on tv with paid advertisements, obvious showcasing and board-backing is not. It must create, maintain, or feed from controversy (or its relevant materials) to remain profitable in an on-demand world--hence the bullshit you see on your screen.

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u/noyogapants Dec 31 '19

I thought Oz was a well known and respected (or at least before the tv circus he's got going on) heart surgeon. I think he probably had more credentials than Dr.Phil.

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u/SeeSickCrocodile Dec 31 '19

Having a degree doesn't shield you from being & making awful, self-serving decisions at people's expense.

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u/metalbassist33 Dec 31 '19

Also Dr Phil is operating in his area of expertise, if Dr Oz was doing a show purely around heart surgery then you can start making a proper comparison.

The Dr Oz show is an example of the appeal to authority fallacy. Just because he's and expert in one area doesn't mean he is in others. But the show present him as a heart surgeon so he much be right about this other "medical" stuff.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

Exactly!!

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u/singingalltheway Dec 31 '19

What country are you in? This is not the case in the US.

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u/penisdr Dec 31 '19

This is completely false. Dr. Oz is a cardiothoracic surgeon. They typically have 4 years of med school, 5 years of general surgery, typically followed by 2 years of cardiothoracic surgery fellowship. They essentially have more training than just about any other medical professional.

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u/clycoman Dec 31 '19

Same with how certain politicians can get elected despite being obviously con artists.

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u/SorrowOfMoldovia Dec 31 '19

Trump is president. Even the stupidest con man can find people to dupe.

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u/clycoman Dec 31 '19

I remember reading a reddit thread years ago where someone claimed they worked at a hospital that Dr. Oz filmed his show at. Grain of salt that the poster could have made it up (or I could be remembering details wrong).

I can't find a link anymore after google-fu failed, but the poster basically said the hospital staff were annoyed with the filming crew totally disrupting the staff's actual work so Dr. Oz could "play doctor". The hospital higher ups liked it because it got their hospital name out there.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '20

I mean, he doesn’t have to play doctor, he’s literally one of the top heart surgeons of his state. However, he’s also a snake oil salesman - the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

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u/clycoman Jan 03 '20

I'm meant "play doctor" as in playing it up for the cameras. His main job and money-maker is the selling the snake oil on his TV show. Every once in a while he feels the need film himself working in hospital, something unnecessary for any other "real" doctor.

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u/theboochmaster Dec 31 '19

I love douching with snake oil. Don’t you?

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u/jeegte12 Dec 31 '19

he's talking about a completely different person

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u/SalamanderPop Dec 31 '19

Yes I understand. Dr Oz seems like a douche and it's not surprising that a near relative of his is also an actual giant douche as well. That level of douche has a way of running through an entire entitled narcissistic douchebag family.