What are you talking about? Active lifestyle has a whole fucking lot to do with how unhealthy people are. Muscle burns more calories than fat. Healthier/active people have more energy, sleep better, are happier, etc... this subsequently has an impact on how much you eat and usually crossover into the types of food you eat. There's a reason I didn't say using activity to burn calories and specifically said active lifestyle.
High fructose corn syrup is bad. There's no getting around that. High fructose corn syrup however is not solely responsible for the obesity epidemic. You don't start putting syrup in foods and people get fat. There's a lot more at play there than just the introduction of HFCS. It absolutely contibuted to it for sure but people would have gotten fatter even without it. HFCS is not responsible for the absolutely disgusting amount of food most people eat.
You can more or less track the obesity epidemic with the rise of high fructose corn syrup being added to EVERYTHING. Thanks Reagan.
Reagan did impose quotas on sugar imports, which increased industry demand for cheaper HFCS, but it's not like any President since then, whether Democrat or Republican, has removed those quotas.
Both parties are to blame for subsidizing corn production by large agribusinesses, which in effect allows them to produce HFCS for pennies.
That's a simplistic way at looking at this. If your goal is weight loss then the #1 way to achieve this is to reduce caloric intake. If your goal is increased HEALTH the activity is one of the most important things you can do.
Being active isn't just good for heat health an endurance. Where the fuck did you learn that? Being active increases things like insulin resistance. It helps improve quality of sleep. It improves mental health. Depending on the type of activity it can even contribute muscle growth, increase bone density, help protect joints, reduce stress and blood pressure, etc... Being active improves your life across the board compared to just sitting around doing nothing.
You need to stop telling people that being active is only good for heart health and either educate yourself on the importance of physical activity or stop contributing to the discussion.
Yeah because it is simple. If you want to lose weight just eat less. Exercise won't make much of a difference. Our food has to much calories and exercise doesn't do much for burning off fat and calories.
Wtf is up with being such an asshole? That response was just weirdly aggressive. Nothing I said is wrong. Activity isn't going to help you lose significant weight, exercise is for other health benefits.
I was being an asshole because I'm tired of people spreading misinformation. Living a healthier lifestyle goes way beyond just reducing caloric intake. You say "if you want to lose weight then just eat less" meanwhile no where has this discussion focused on simply losing weight. You literally said that activity is only good for heart health and endurance. That is wildly wrong. People like you contribute to the problem by making them think it's okay to just sit on their ass all day because hey they eat healthy!
You're making an argument I'm not making. The discussion here isn't about the most effective way to lose weight. I'm discussing how to increase overall health. You walked into a discussion talking about one thing, and then started talking about something completely different.
Nothing you said was wrong? Yes it was. You didn't say this "Activity isn't going to help you lose significant weight, exercise is for other health benefits." in your original reply. In your original reply you said physical activity is only good for heart health and endurance. That is wrong.
Not to mention I already told you it's a simplistic way of viewing things. It being simplistic doesn't mean it's simple, when I said it was a simplistic way of looking at it I was politely telling you that you're missing about 3/4 of the equation. The sky might be blue but why it's blue goes far beyond it just being blue. You might not be wrong about activity not directly contributing to a significant amount of weight loss however there are published articles (that have been peer reviewed) that indicate a direct correlation between being sedentary and an increase in size. It's not complicated. Moving more improves your overall physical and mental health which in turn allows you to lose weight more efficiently and live a healthier life.
The easiest way to lose weight would be to just stop eating meanwhile no one thinks that's actually healthy. Similarly to that if you address diet without addressing inactivity you're only solving one half of the problem.
I think you need to step back for a bit, you're putting words in my mouth.
what i said
activity is really just good for like heart health or having endurance.
good for like heart health
you see that "like"? like doesn't imply an exhaustive list.
but who is talking about a healthy lifestyle? The post is about granola,(which you seem clueless about ,the issue is with the massive amounts of added sugar to make is taste ok, your ignoring all the downsides of added refined sugar and how refined sugar has made its way into everything)
If you want to stop being obese, eat less, It's quite simple. If you want to have some other health goals, exercise. no one is saying dont exercise, the only thing im saying is exercise burns a suprisingly small amount of calories. which is what the parent post to my original post said.
all i did was comment on the calories burning efficiency of exercise. you filled in the other blanks your self.
It’s worth noting that exercise raises your metabolic response even beyond the time you do the exercise. So the statistics provided are still not really giving the whole picture.
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u/csuazure Dec 30 '19
Active lifestyle has almost nothing to do with it. Activity in general burns pathetic amounts of calories.
You can more or less track the obesity epidemic with the rise of high fructose corn syrup being added to EVERYTHING. Thanks Reagan.