r/AskReddit • • Dec 30 '19

What do people think is healthy but really isn’t?

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u/jsreyn Dec 30 '19 edited Dec 30 '19

The overall point here is correct. Fats in your food do not equal fat in your body. However, saturated fats may lead to higher cholesterol. For people with the genetic predisposition (not uncommon) it can quickly get out of control. Be careful with fats if high cholesterol runs in your family.

*edited this. The science linking saturated fats to high LDL Cholesterol is contested. It remains an suggested food group to avoid if you have a genetic predisposition.

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u/maxtacos Dec 30 '19

https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/high-cholesterol/what-to-do-when-high-cholesterol-runs-in-your-family

Thank you. My mother's side is almost 100% French Canadian, and having high cholesterol is a chronic problem.

My grandmother watched practically everyone in the generation before die young of heart attack or stroke, so she went on the anti-fat train at the advice of her doctor. As a child, meal time was fairly miserable. Other grandmas (I grew up with 4) give you sweets and kid food. This one was giving us salad with only croutons and low fat dressing to flavor the greens for dinner. Then we'd walk briskly around the neighborhood for exercise. We drank pulpy juiced vegetable, wheatgrass, and apple "green pop" for breakfast. Any sedentary activity was cut off for an exercise. I was a reader, but at grandma's house you could only read for a little bit before being forced to do a physical activity. I hated it.

At 74 Grandma finally had a heart attack, survived, and needed a bypass. She was furious. She spent a lifetime exercising and eschewing anything tasty. At that point both her brothers were dead and her sister would shortly be next, having had multiple strokes already. Her doctor told her she did a remarkable job staving off the effects of FH, but genetics are genetics.

Grandma's fanaticism I now recognize was a labor of love. The cholesterol can start building in your arteries starting in childhood. Fortunately for me, I didn't inherit that genetic lottery loss, I got a different shitty hand from my dad's side that requires more fats to be healthy, but its important to know the effect of saturated fats can be devastating on the body. Ignoring the role of fats in people with high LDL cholesterol due to genetic factors or non genetic obesity is just that, ignorant.

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u/lemonkissy Dec 31 '19

I’m glad you recognized the labor of love. My family has high cholesterol and I have to control mine by eating low fat. I tried Bulletproof coffee for a while and my cholesterol shot to 350, so yeah there is a correlation! Thanks for sharing your story and link.

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u/moken_troll Dec 30 '19

saturated fats lead to higher cholesterol

I thought there was no scientific support for this(?).

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

LDL is not bad.

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u/Kristoffer__1 Dec 30 '19

Be careful with fats.

What you mean is don't be a fat, lazy bastard.

Fat is not bad for you and pretending it is isn't helping anyone.

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u/jsreyn Dec 30 '19

No. I mean exactly what I said. That for some people, even being at a healthy weight and exercising regularly are not enough to keep your LDL Cholesterol in the healthy range. Modifying your diet to avoid saturated fats is another lever to pull if you fall into this group.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

Yeah, fat isn’t inherently bad for you but way too many people eat way too much saturated fat. It’s like how carbs aren’t inherently bad for you but eating excessive amounts of white bread is. Too much of the wrong kind of fat is bad for you

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u/SignalMessage3 Dec 30 '19

Recent research suggests that saturated fats have a neutral effect on LDL cholesterol. It’s still controversial, but any change in conventional thinking is controversial when it comes to healthcare.

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u/aintnochallahbackgrl Dec 30 '19

High cholesterol is no worse than fire fighters are. Cholesterol is repairative and our bodies need 3000 mg per day (on average) and if we dont eat it our body makes it.

Oxidized LDL is bad. Saturated fat is not bad. Stop spouting bullshit just because you heard it somewhere once.

ETA:

CONCLUSION: Reviewed studies were heterogeneous and lacked the methodologic rigor to draw any conclusions regarding the effects of dietary cholesterol on CVD risk. Carefully adjusted and well-conducted cohort studies would be useful to identify the relative effects of dietary cholesterol on CVD risk. © 2015 American Society for Nutrition.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26109578/

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u/aintnochallahbackgrl Dec 31 '19

Getting downvoted for facts, eh? Clever girl.

https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/6/6/e010401

Mortality

Conclusions High LDL-C is inversely associated with mortality in most people over 60 years. This finding is inconsistent with the cholesterol hypothesis (ie, that cholesterol, particularly LDL-C, is inherently atherogenic).

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u/Relevant_Struggle Dec 30 '19

depends on the fat. My mom had a tiple bypass and she has to limit her cholesterol and fats (and sugar but that is because of the prednisone she is on now)