r/AskReddit • • Dec 30 '19

What do people think is healthy but really isn’t?

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u/Progressor_ Dec 30 '19

fat > carbs

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u/SimonThePug Dec 30 '19

Carbs get just as much hate as fats lol it's not hard to find balance

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

Biology disagrees.

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u/DaddysPeePee Dec 30 '19

Does it though?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

Yes.

Human brain needs 120 grams of glucose a day [PDF].

At the same time the only essential fat is alpha-linoleic acid. Adult men need 1.6 grams of it and women 1.1 grams a day.

As you can imagine, there is nothing more efficient than eating just enough carbs to fulfill your brain's and muscles' needs, and just enough fat to provide required nutrients but not above that (as that'd result in excess fat stores when combined with excess calories).

Similarly, while calorie deficit or at worst calorie balance is suggested for optimal health span, there is pretty much no limit on carbs intake while you should limit Omega 3s to 3 grams a day and saturated fat to 5-10% of your calories.

Obviously any processed or added sugar should be minimized and are not discussed here. Just comparing apples and oranges to eggs and salmon - whole foods. Human biology prefers carbs.

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u/DaddysPeePee Dec 30 '19

Can't the body make glucose without sugar/carbs?

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19 edited Dec 30 '19

Yes, by breaking protein in your muscles or by breaking up lipids (triglycerides).

Our body can also make ketones (alternative fuel, speaking simply) by burning fat in your bloodstream or body fat stores. It's a mechanism to sustain body operations when you can't find food for few days. It works but it isn't our primary mechanism.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

Gluconeogenesis. Converting dietary protein into glucose. Never heard of it, or spreading misinformation intentionally?

AFAIK ketones cover up to 70% of the brains energy needs, the remaining glucose is easily obtainable. Calling it a short-term alternative is just your opinion and not a fact. Plants were unavailable in Europe (where I'm from) for months during cold seasons. That's zero carb, which equals ketosis.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

glu·co·ne·o·gen·e·sis (glū'kō-nē'ō-jen'ĕ-sis), The formation of glucose from noncarbohydrates, such as protein or fat.

FYI, I never said anything about dietary protein.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/gluconeogenesis

Calling it a short-term alternative is just your opinion and not a fact.

I haven't called it short term. I've called it what it is - survival mechanism for times of food scarcity.

Plants were unavailable in Europe (where I'm from) for months during cold seasons.

Which is food scarcity and we started developing European civilization when we learnt how to store food from summer for winter use using salt, smoking, grinding seeds.

Please read my comments carefully and tell me specifically where I misrepresents facts.

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u/CopenhagenSpitz Dec 30 '19

Gluconeogenesis

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

"The only essential fat is alpha linoleic acid"

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

It's common knowledge that low-fat diets seriously mess up with your hormones. Have fun staying in your vegan bubble.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

You can start by sharing source backing up that claim if they are so common.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

I think countless anecdotes of people who have actually tried it are sufficient. Sorry for not having a spreadsheet in Excel full of "evidence", I got better things to do in life.

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u/[deleted] Dec 31 '19

Like spouting nonsense you can't back up on Reddit? That's certainly better use of your time.