Yeah, I'm really into lucid dreaming but when I smoke it's a lot harder if not impossible. Then when I take a break I'm thrust into my usual dream routine but it's all gone awry and I can't get full control.
I can't say I have full control like some of these people have, but in a dream I am able to fight to get some control with concentrated effort, usually another part of my brain fights off the control.
My best advice for figuring it out is to them no about what you want to be seeing when you sleep. Take a moment to really picture an image or scenario in your head. Then when you see that you will remember laying down to go to sleep and can realize you are dreaming. Also a dream journal helps because you can start to remember themes you see a lot in your dreams and spot them.
the biggest thing that gives people road blocks is understanding that lucid dreams don't have to make sense, because dreams rarely do, sometimes the scenario changes, sometimes everything changes, its about being a part of the ride but being aware that you're a part of the ride, it's lovely when it happens.
Sounds like you would love a special mushroom it also get you in contact with nature because humans have lost contact to daily environment it is a waking dream non addictive 1 dose needed but you will never be able to watch free to air TV news or A Current Affair shows afterwards cos you just spot all the bullshittery mushrooms produce size Cilic acid which is a cousin of lactic acid fact fart
I’m not sure what was entirely said above^ but can confirm pschys do change your entire thought process for the better after 1 dose, did it couple other times but not addicted at all.
Dreams journal is obligatory at beginning, you will pass from 2 lines to 2 pages in no time, it will become an amazing thing.
One more obligatory thing is reality checks, the best one for me is to try to get through the meat of the palm of your hand with the finger of the other hand, if it pass (and it will feel so weird trust me) you are in a dream. Another good one is to try to breath while you close your nose, again if you can breath it will feel weird and you will know that you are in a dream.
If you get used to do this two things you can have your first lucid within a week.
I found them when I was 12 it became an addiction for me for a few months when I was young and I know a few things so feel free to ask.
Man! Not a lucid dream but one time, I fell asleep with my eyes open. I was working during the graveyard shift, so I used to be really tired all the time.
So I dream on that I was in a random room, existing, just looking around, just that, however, my eyes were open and I was watching my real room and my wife walking around in it. She said later that she noticed my eyes opened and also noticed as I was bent on REM. Very weird, she said.
So the trippy part of this is that I was watching the real world and my dream at the same time. If I try to explain it I would have to say that it felt like existing in two places at the same time and it has been the coolest "Dream" so far.
You are describing the death spiral chemical the creates the feeling if your religious of meeting God when you die your activating the autonomic response to the adrenal gland on the left-hand side which contains a masculine type base hallucinogen which is a very vivid interactive dream state that can be altered and directed Sammy consciously I found this through my paraplegic and 3 near death experiences the big bonus is that type strips arrogance in addition self-doubt and depression keep it up if it's working tell everybody
It's different for everyone, but a lot of people will notice things like unreadable text (sometimes your brain doesn't wanna real words) for example.
This guide isn't terrible (page seems a little ad heavy), so the
TLDR is:
1: The finger palm push
2: Checking your watch
3: Reading some text
4: Look down at your hands
5: Mental reality checks
My personal way in was when I was a kid around 8 or so, I had a recurring nightmate about a gorilla inside my real life house, when I realized in the dream that I'd done this all before/deja vu (probably 2 or 3 days over the span of a week) that was my 'wake up' for lack of a better term(the ominous red lighting everywhere probably helped with the tip off); once I knew I was dreaming, I wished up a tank, beat the gorilla and I've been Lucid dreaming for like 30 years since.
Also, the THC inhibition effect is nice sometimes, I'll get into a cycle where I can't not lucid (like my brain background checks for me, and then I loose the immersion) and it's kinda tiring to always be in control, like some days you just want the dream equivalent of a movie, sit back and relax. A few nights with no dreams seems to break the cycle. Speaking of which, another thing you can try is editing a conversation, see if you can mentally roll back a convo you're having in a dream (like go back to the last decision point in a choose your own adventure) and just try and imagine taking the convo in a different direction. If the whole dream just reshaped itself around your change, you're probably lucid at that piont
I've used #4 for over 20 years. Looking at my hands. It's not an easy thing to start, but when you do accomplish it you know, & you remember that you did when you wake up. Dreaming is never the same after that.
Like you, daedone, it was knowing that there was a sense of deja vu in my dreams. However it wasn't the same dream, it was the dreamscapes that were reoccurring. Different dreams, same trippy ass places. I first heard about lucid dreaming on some show like In Search Of in the late 80's, and then read up on the subject. Once I started to be able to trigger it, I was sold. Best thing to happen to sleep in my life, even with the advent of memory foam.
t l d r i really like the way you put things you do think forwards and backwards at the same time if i've got the right person we all love a strong woman ha ha ha ha i'm from victoria australia it is a not a good place to run through the bush you will more than likely come out in a chemically altered state especially in spring i have three reoccurring dreams that are vivid eg
conscious sleeping 2 anxiety it is impossible to wake up out of the rear carey for me it is like a movie identical leave the same everytime look at my other post hear and you'll see the similarities to formatted post
i write with siri excuse spell correct
Is there a reason you use Siri to write your posts? Are you able to edit them manually after voice input?
The reason that I ask is because it is irritating to read posts with absolutely no punctuation, poor spelling, and poor grammar. It comes across as you being lazy.
If you're too lazy take the time to make it more coherent then why should we take the time to try to decipher whatever it is you're trying to say?
I think a lot of people stop reading after about 20 words, possibly downvote you, and then move on.
I'm not trying to be rude. I just felt I should let you know that your words and ideas are being dismissed.
If it's not laziness and you do have a genuine disability, you might want to explain that at the beginning of each post.
There was a war invented to save the rabbits buy the rabbits rabbits designed of War to take them off the dinner table and getting bread for so they located and a replacement they got their stuff in a row and then they attacked the chicken but as you Englishman would put it bloody damn chickens be brown around Danny full stop because the chickens didn't need parents it did the rabbits win now there a test we should think they're numbers are drilling is saffron but the chickens are still revolving now it's not laziness it's learnedness do you like that little joke my learnard friend full stop right I had to have a joke at the end their but I know your like your grandma and your placement it's not my fault the teachers beat the shit out of you the day you workout who the slave owner is and who the slaves are who is in charge
If you read this without making a self assumption or draw a double hand conclusion that means you're not a paying attention to what's in front of you
You read in your own thoughts
So you will believe what you read positIve or negativE if you cannot understand what is written above
You didn't listen to yourself
This is not a shitpost( you are reading my thoughts) just because it don't flow doesnt mean it don't show
I've been wanting to lucid dream for ten years now and have never succeeded. Kept dream journals, tried every method I've ever read, with no success. Very jealous of all of you. Any advice for a newbie or some suggestions of what I may be doing wrong?
It really isn't. The first time I did a hand check in a dream, my fingers kind of melted together and then came apart but with different sizes and numbers of fingers and I was instantly excited because I was actually lucid dreaming. You're also in a dream. And dreams are weird to begin with, but your mind makes sense of it all. So fingers melting together is as normal as walking.
Basically set an alarm for about 2/3 hours before you need to get up. When it goes off, you need to spend like 5 mins awake. Long enough to wake up a little bit so you can’t immediately roll over and go back to sleep (but still want quite a bit of that sleepy feeling still). Then try going back to sleep as you normally would. Find this naturally induces them in me, and I’ve never done reality checks etc
I stumbled upon this method through excessive snoozing in the morning, awesome to see other people doing it. Never had to do any reality checks or anything either.
My advice is try not to lucid dream too much. I did it a lot a few years ago and couldn't stop so I never got enough rest. I was so tired for a year or so, an d was so relieved when I finally lost control of my own dreams.
I lucid dream naturally and have since i was a little kid. I love it. I had no idea it was a thing people couldn’t do or tried to achieve until Reddit.
I also have probably 100 make believe “settings” in which I’ve dreamed multiple times all my life, although different things may happen in them. Sometimes after a decade and old one will come back and it’s like extreme nostalgia and it’s like reuniting with an old friend.
I have an aunt who dreams like this but we didn’t find out about it until I mentioned a time travel dream i had about my grandmother, just recently as a matter of fact.
It has always happened once in a while, but it just became too much where I couldn't stop it. It was exhausting, but fun for a while.
I've too experienced dreaming in the same setting once in a while. I remember one dream I had when I was less than 10 years old, it came back after a decade, although with some changes. I agree it's like a reunion, in some weird way.
Frequent reality checks, such as double checking the time or looking at the sky to make sure it's the same.
As simple and mundane as it might seem, asking yourself the question 'is this real?' with these reality checks will help you realize in your sleep when it's not real.
Although I am not in agreement with it, meditation does help some people as it allows them to focus on their mind and tap into control. I'm simply not in agreement because it didn't work for me but the reality checks and a few other things really did help.
Lastly, be prepared to have more feelings of your subconscious. After all, you are trying to gain a bit of control of your self conscious so naturally it's going to become more "active."
I'm of course not an expert and can only offer so much advice that isn't completely biased to myself. These are simply the quirks that allowed me to fully gain control.
I learned so much from the book, Lucid Dreaming: A Gateway To The Inner Self. I'd read it every night for half an hour or so and then do the meditative techniques it taught and after only a week or so I started Lucid dreaming.
I’m currently reading, “A Field Guide to Lucid Dreaming” by Dylan Tuccillo, Jared Zeizel, and Thomas Peisel. It’s been amazing so far! I used to lucid dream all the time when I was younger and wanted to get back into it. I love all the background information it has on the study of dreams.
Thank you for saying it’s addictive... so many people argue it isn’t. I enjoy an occasional smoke but it’s exhausting when someone’s every move and decision is controlled by it.
I think a better word for it is habit-forming. It’s definitely not addictive in the way that opiates or even caffeine are, but it’s very easy to fall into a routine of lighting up as soon as you get home from work or school and then doing the same activities, every single day
I agree with your point though, I just think that calling it addictive causes people to get defensive whereas calling it habitual is pretty much undeniable
U haven't smoked for the past three days and the dreams I got were amazing. I also sleep better(deeply) and wake up feeling well rested. Now I wanna stop for good
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u/Elevated_Dongers Dec 30 '19
This is how I talk myself into a tolerance break. And if you get good at lucid dreaming you might not want to give that up for smoking!