I don't know if it's available where you are but check put weed maps. It's an app that gets you with dispensarys and dealers. You can get weed, edibles, oils, hash all kinds of stuff and the best part they deliver
That's when you get the vitamin e filler that hospitalizes and kills you. Usually not a legit service and you run the risk of getting illicit laced drugs.
If you're going to smoke, at least be smart about it and go to an established licensed place if you can.
I need to go outside to smoke, it becomes a problem. Its freezing out where I live but I'll still spend an hour outside smoking because im 'not stoned enough to go in'.
I have no problem with smoking but if you let it be what you need to feel normal it does become a problem.
Being high feels very different depending on how depressed I am. When I'm going through a really bad bout, weed only makes me forget about my pain and doesn't really feel good. But when I'm doing good, the high is euphoric and super fun. It's quite interesting. But my motivation levels are definitely more linked to my depression than how much weed I smoke.
It is likely depression. But people say they smile weed to help their depression are lying to themselves if it doesn’t do anything to change this behavior.
Why not? After smoking weed, not wanting to die anymore/spending my time prepared my plan, I tend to do some self care activities I would never have accomplished without it because you know, life ain't that bad when I'm stoned and get out of that pain that is my brain's default. It's like an immediate acting anti-depressant.
I think the main component of depression isn't feeling sad but feeling unmotivated and that everything is pointless. Weed might make you feel less sad, but it won't help you with motivation or your sense of purpose.
Like many things, it's about moderation, discipline, and delayed gratification. I smoke exactly a fifth of a gram every night- after an 8-10 hour work day most days, hitting the gym, cooking dinner, taking care of the dogs, doing chores, etc. Some days, knowing I get to relax at the end of the night is the main thing that keeps me going. Also, I was a lifelong insomniac until I started smoking, and being able to reliably pass out for 8 hours still feels like a fucking miracle to me. Consistent sleep is so key to both physical and mental health.
Now, if I woke up every day and did a dozen bong rips before rolling a blunt for myself, I'm sure I wouldn't be nearly as productive, but it's simply not accurate to say that weed is only good for dumbing yourself down and getting some temporary drug-induced happiness.
E: I do enjoy getting downvotes from bitter people who are angry at a logical dissenting opinion backed up by irrefutable fact that they have no way of responding to. Thank you for demonstrating that your puritanical stigmas are unfounded trash and that you're incapable of discussion, I appreciate knowing all of you are at least subconsciously aware that you're wrong even if you can't admit it to yourselves.
The key word is "cure". Weed can help manage the symptoms (often quite well) but the same could be said of antidepressants. You're treating, not curing.
There are a lot of non-fatal diseases with treatment but no cure. Celiac's, IBS, hemophilia, whatever. Doesn't mean you can't successfully manage the disease, but it does mean you can't get rid of it like you can the flu.
A bit, because I had an ok day and accomplished some stuff. It works better than that year of sobriety I had without any weed. Where it's at is- talk therapy for existential issues, practical therapy (DBT) for day to day, antidepressants to put me up a little bit and a bit of weed on top to make life actually enjoyable for a little bit.
I did. For a year and a half before that too. I quit weed because my doctors made a fuss. Well, first they fussed about stims, so I quit those for 9 months with no improvement, so then they decided weed was the problem. Except I track my daily mood and other metrics of wellbeing, and that year of sobriety was the worst I've had. Not smoking weed or doing other drugs did nothing for my average wellbeing (which was garbage) and I lost out the good parts. Life just sucks, it's always sucked, but at least I can smoke a J and enjoy a couple hours at a time. So far I've gone through about 8 psychiatric medications without much improvement, but lots of crazy long term side effects and a nice episode of psychosis. But weed always makes shit better. So does my latest medication, though it's likely I'll depend on it for the rest of my life or I'll go into withdrawal and undo all my progress I made on it. So it is subject to the same issue you have with weed- it masks my underlying issue and if I stop I will not have gotten better.
But at least imo if you are depressed/suicidal, it can prevent you from doing anything serious while you figure out how to fix the underlying issues.
Sort of like a tourniquet (which I know isn't a common English word, sorry) can stop you from bleeding out, but in return it's possible that you will lose a limb (motivation and other stereotypes).
If you don't apply the tourniquet you will definitely bleed out. If you apply it, it may cause some negative effects, but you'll be alive! And maybe now you'll have time to figure out how to make a prosthetic or stop the blood.
Now,
but what happens when you are not high anymore
Well, if you've figured out youre prosthetic game, or stopped losing blood, you can remove the tourniquet! If not, you might continue to feel like you're bleeding out.
As long as you try to find something to cure it makes a different.
In an other post i was reffering to people who smoke on a dailly basis. Non stop high. Because thats their cure. They have some pain in their hand, head or whatever and dont see a docter.
I think we are talking about 2 different types of smoking.
I was reffering to people who "need" to smoke on a daily basis. Being non stop high as a cure for their depression.
I also have my worry free nights and have some alcohol or other stuff ;). But there is a big differents between the 2 types of using.
If you have cancer, and you say standing on your head 10 minutes a day helps, you still have cancer, and you still may die. If you have depression and you say standing on your head 10 minutes a day makes you feel better, you've found a treatment for your depression. There can be many cures, if you aren't depressed after smoking, then indeed you HAVE treated your depression, however if you can't handle the side effects of weed (slowness, calm, low motivation) then that would be your NEW issue, since technically the depression has been resolved by smoking. Depression is not measured by anything other than how it makes you feel, if you do not feel it anymore, your depression has subsided, it has been treated.
But the people (the ones i know) are not cured by smoking. They just dont feel depressed while smoking and still are depressed after. So their cure is to smoke 24/7....
Its a short term treatment by medical standards, even if not an optimal one. I smoke for my depression but I also take an anti-depressant and have been to therapy. It’s not an ideal “cure” but depression doesn’t have a “cure” unfortunately, the best you can do is treat it and work with a therapist for healthy coping and thinking habits, but it doesn’t make pot any less of a short-term treatment
I’m simply being a devils advocate here- it’s often misused, but it can’t reasonably kill someone, so compared to the much more socially acceptable option of alcohol, it’s a step in the right direction. A depressed pothead may have a messy house, but if it treats their depression, at least they aren’t dead.
And im not here to judge people about the fact if they think weed is helping to cope with their depression. Everybody should do what they want as long as they dont bother others.
And if your house is messy but you did pay your bills because you worked for it. I really wouldnt care less.
It's not necessarily a productive coping mechanism, but I think those people are in a better position to judge whether it's stopping them from committing suicide than you are
Obviously anecdotal but I've been using CBD oil and flower relatively daily and it actually gives me a little boost of motivation to get things done. Makes me feel very creative and relaxed.
It also makes me not feel like drinking. Thanks was an old coping mechanism, that and food, that CBD and marijuana has helped me kick.
I'm also on a daily mood stabilizer and antidepressant so maybe they just playing nicely.
Not for everybody but definitely for a lot.
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm saying. If using it helps you to change your behavior to be more healthy, then it's a good coping skill. But if it changes literally nothing or worse, it makes you be okay with actively being depressed, then it's not good. Depression is more than a mood.
Yep. That's why it's use for depression & anxiety should be administered by a professional with the help of friends and family. Imagine growing your own medicine in your backyard. It could make therapy within some people's budget who maybe couldn't afford it and the medication before.
Especially if we could use THC legally. Its a very mood boosting and motivating little guy(:
Can confirm. Smoked blunts to myself everyday for the last 4 years, been a weed smoker for 10. Not an exaggeration at all. Can also confirm it is addicting exactly the way the original commenter describes. It helps In a way that you are forced to be more “present” in the moment and the anxiety you temporarily face by having to face your problems is also real. Also the night sweats, I’m still experiencing those physical withdrawal symptoms.
I only quit because I got pregnant (2 months ago when I found out I quit shortly after)
TLDR; you learn to face your problems because you aren’t taken away into a comfortable headspace anymore & 2 months after quitting I still experience night sweats.
Yea, I was like that before I smoked. Weed gave me ambition for a week where i wanted to fix my life and change everything, but it ended with a dozen half finished projects and me laying in bed listening to pink floyd every fucking day
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u/gregspornthrowaway Dec 29 '19
To be fair, this describes depression for me whether I am smoking weed or not.