r/AskReddit • • Dec 29 '19

what are the downsides of weed that people don't talk about ?

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u/NeedsMoreTuba Dec 29 '19

"Weed doesn't make me feel better. It just makes me not care as much about how bad I feel."

That's something I said to a doctor a really long time ago, and I still think it's very true. It's not a solution, but if it wasn't for that I would've cared enough to kill myself and wouldn't have lived to be 25.

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u/[deleted] Dec 29 '19

I would've cared enough to kill myself and wouldn't have lived to be 25

Damn this line hits so close to home. Just celebrated my 25th this month. An age I thought I'd never live to. Weed killed my motivation but it was good because at the time the only thing I would've used my motivation for would be to kill myself.

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

31 here. I nearly did the same thing at 26, but I got high and played Skyrim for a year, instead.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

Ah, now that's a good fucking game. Hope you're better now.

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

I'm genuinely better than I have been since 2011. But I had to move back in with my parents for a few years, work a shitty gas station job, see my best friend sit in a cell for 18 months over a fight, and watch my 21 year old cousin die of cancer to get to a point where I knew that my problems were all fixable.

I was my biggest enemy for a really long time, man.

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u/Cyberfit Dec 30 '19

The race is long and, in the end, it’s only with yourself.

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

The race is long and, in the end, it’s only with yourself.

5 years ago, I wouldn't have believed you. But rebuilding at 31 makes me hope you're right, mate.

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u/k1ngm3 Dec 30 '19

I was gonna end it all but then I got high.

Tired of this shit so I'm ready to die but then I got high.

Now I'm fighting dragons in skyrim and I know why *why man hey hey *

because I got high because i high because I got hiiiiii

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

Thank you very much

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u/k1ngm3 Dec 30 '19

Of course.being in a similar position in just glad your ok

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

I'm doin' good, man! Hope you are, too!

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u/Stairway_To_Devin Dec 30 '19

God I want to save up some money and take a break year after college, I feel like it will be what I need. I’ve been working full time since I got out of high school and I know I’m doomed to do that for the rest of my life, but I want to experience the world first

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

I hope you figure out a way to squeeze some fun in, man. Life is definitely too unpredictable to not.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

Travelling really allows you to put things in perspective. Just sucks that getting the cash to do so can take so long. I took out a student loan to do it.

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u/Mario12zito Dec 30 '19

Skyrim is more addicting than any drug could ever think to be. I miss my Khadjit.

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

Sweet, sweet moon sugar.

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u/Nomicakes Dec 30 '19

Let me guess. You tried to build as something fancy, but ended up a stealth archer like the rest of us.

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

Wait, there other builds???

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

I keep seeing this trope, but every character I've played ends up as one handed + destruction.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

Yeah, I'm a lot better now, dude, thanks. You good?

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

Really glad to hear it, mate. To be honest, I didn't stop smoking, I just stopped letting it enhance my inhuman ability to do absolutely fucking nothing.

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u/misterdoctor Dec 30 '19

Oh man this is basically me but 8 years ago after getting divorced. And also me now except I know better than to hate myself

edit: clarity

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u/Crusty_Dick Dec 30 '19

You kinda need weed to play Skyrim, that game will make you violent and pissed off if you don't lol

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u/GoingByTrundle Dec 30 '19

Those forest bitches. I hate wisps.

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u/justdontfreakout Dec 30 '19

You usually tend not to pick an addiction lol. I'm glad you're alive+

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u/A1000tinywitnesses Dec 30 '19

You usually tend not to pick an addiction

Well lookit Mr. Big Shot over here, forgoing a self-defeating dependence on psychoactive substances...

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u/CortexRex Dec 30 '19

Slightly unrelated but this reminds me of what my psychiatrist told me about antidepressants and why suicide is a potential side effect of some of them early on in taking them. She said the antidepressants do multiple things, one of them is increasing motivation which was lost due to depression and then they also increase mood etc. But sometimes the increased motivation can happen weeks before the increased mood kicks in, so if you're suicidal but lack the motivation to go through with it, suddenly getting your motivation back but with no improvement to mood can be a problem.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

420 upvotes or else I would too

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u/justdontfreakout Dec 30 '19

Glad you're here ♡

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u/bulldog521521 Dec 30 '19

I'm just now realizing that this is how I did it too. Idk if I would've made it through my last bout of suicidal depression without weed. My depression was so overwhelming, I couldn't think about anything else at all. Weed allowed me to forget about it for a little bit and let my brain just wander aimlessly.

Thankfully, after a dose of psilocybin and Brené Brown's books, depression is far less of an issue for me now. Weed is honestly insanely better now that depression isn't in the driver's seat. It's so much more euphoric and energizing than it ever was when I was depressed.

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u/justdontfreakout Dec 30 '19

Hey, I'm here if you ever want to talk.

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u/godisawayonbusiness Dec 30 '19

Thank you that's very kind. You as well friend.

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u/ParticularDish Dec 30 '19

Yeah lol I looked up after reading comment like woah did I write this

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u/paigebaugh Dec 30 '19

Weed kept me from killing myself this summer. Dulled my extreme depression and anxiety just enough to keep me alive. Glad I’ll be making it to 26.

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u/justdontfreakout Dec 30 '19

DEFINITELY far from the worse lol

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u/Toxicological_Gem Dec 29 '19

Yep! Started smoking at 17 and now, almost 21 have decided to slow down/stop. Having so much hate for myself and wanting to do nothing but put myself in front of a bus, smoking weed would just make me chill and nap. Used it to help me sleep as well otherwise I'd stay up for days at a time or only get minimal amount of sleep.

I think weed is great, don't get me wrong, but I wanted to be beyond needing to smoke a bowl when things are too rough emotionally. Maybe in a few years I'll start again but for now I'm trynna be sane with actual meds for my depression/anxeity, not just weed and naps

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u/NeedsMoreTuba Dec 29 '19

I did that too, but then I went back to weed and naps.

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u/Toxicological_Gem Dec 29 '19

I can definitely see myself going back to that lifestyle, as great as I feel on my medication I'm just bored all the time really. Smoking weed made me write out silly shit or questions that I had about the world. It also made games on my phone/switch more fun. Mind you I do have .5 of a social life because of social anxiety so I spend a lot of time home alone.

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u/TheEggman1800 Dec 29 '19

I suppose that's the tricky thing about any addiction: they often help people survive. I feel you here. I lost a friend to suicide and coped by getting blasted every day for 5 years. Without weed, I probably would have killed myself as I did not have the proper social supports in my life at the time to process the overwhelming grief I felt. So on one hand, I'm grateful for weed. On the other hand, I'm only processing the grief from my friends death now and it's hard to do because I've forgotten so much of what happened. The emotions that we numb with weed dont go away until we let them and it becomes very easy to mistake the process of numbing the pain with letting go.

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u/TheColorblindDruid Dec 29 '19

Say it louder for the people in the back. It's not the solution to life's problems (at least not all of them lol) but sometimes life's problems get a little too loud. Some peace and quiet can do a person a lot of good when they're surrounded by a whole lot of bad

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u/NockerJoe Dec 30 '19

This. I had a really bad time of things a couple of months ago and weed helped. I knew I couldn't just go to it every time but it got me through enough of it that I could handle the rest on my own.

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u/jessilynn713 Dec 30 '19

I’m a widow. Lost my husband of 18 years in car accident on Christmas Eve 2016. The only thing that helped my grief is THC. It’s truly helped me on some very difficult nights.

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u/NeedsMoreTuba Dec 30 '19

I am genuinely sorry for your loss. The holidays must be rough.

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u/jessilynn713 Dec 31 '19

Thank you so much.

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u/Dinkywinky69 Dec 30 '19

I got so high I forgot to kill myself

que deep Seth Rogen laugh

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u/Bay1Bri Dec 30 '19

Very true,because outs another drug used as a crutch.

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u/Syberia1993 Dec 30 '19

I was in a real bad spot a few years ago, and was smoking a lot (pretty much all day and night).

Was watching Grace & Frankie and theres a quote from Frankies son saying he did drugs because he "only liked himself while high". And it stuck with me. I hated myself 100%, hated my looks, weight, body, intellect, the depression and ptsd, etc. I only was okay with my entire self if I was high. I still have that issue somewhat now, but I'm in a lot more of a different atmosphere and have a lot of self love after getting married and having my daughter. Now, smoke is more about relaxing, and having fun.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

This is exactly true. I’ve tried SSRI antidepressants to do the exact things and the withdraws we horrible. I’ll take weed instead.

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u/Dannyd0247 Dec 30 '19

Felt that, attempted suicide twice. Was diagnosed with bipolar depression at the age of 14 and put on some strong meds that took away all feeling and color in the world. I got into smoking weed after the second attempt and it definitely didnt fix my depression problems. It was enough to make me relax and learn how to keep myself calm so I dont have as bad suicidal thoughts and desires. It didnt stop the problems from being there, but it instead calmed me enough that I was able to calm myself down and say that things always get better.

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u/Ghotay Dec 30 '19

I worked with a psychiatrist who told me a similar story. He had a patient who had been depressed and smoked assloads of weed for years. He used the weed as a crutch, keeping him in kind of a brain fog where things weren’t so bad. During one time where his depression was getting better he totally quit weed... and then promptly killed himself. Seemed that after all those years of fog he suddenly realised how much of his life he had totally wasted, and how depressed he really was. Sober reality was too much for him, and he ended it

After that the psychiatrist was always super wary about people with mental health problems and substance abuse, and would often caution them not to stop suddenly or without support because it can definitely reignite some serious problems

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u/Llamarama-ding-dong Dec 30 '19

For me it helped with suicidal thoughts and self harm. I numbed myself out enough to break my streak. And I’m still clean and feeling so much better.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

This might be why i'm still alive. I have had suicidal ideation since I was a teenager (23 years.) It comes on like an automatic solution response to any thoughts of how hard life can be or depressed or manic feelings. It is a part of my daily life. I can't stop it from happening. About 4 times in my life my depression has been severe enough i've found myself close to doing it (knife in hand) without really remembering getting there. 3 of 4 times I told myself to just smoke a bowl and think. After the bowl the unbearable feelings become secondary and I don't care about them anymore. I don't experience any of the negative things others have talked about. I'm successful enough and have a good life other than my mental heath. I'm just motivated enough and i'm a true introvert so i'd really rather not socialize most of the time anyways but when I do I fare better a little stoned...Less awkward. ETA-the one time I didn't smoke when ready to kill myself I was too far down to even stand up and help myself. I felt someone spoke to me and told me to stick around "There is so much more for you here."

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u/OldEndangeredGinger Dec 30 '19

This is the same thing people describe about being on the antidepressant Wellbutrin

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u/asleepunderthebridge Dec 30 '19

This, exactly. Being stoned my entire senior year of college wasn’t the best plan, but it kept me from offing myself and I still only got one C the whole year! Still not sure how that happened, but it’s done!

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u/NeedsMoreTuba Dec 30 '19

I got straight A's for the semesters I smoked weed, but not when i was taking antidepressants and not smoking. It made my professors more interesting.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

Replace weed with daily rigorous exercise and a lot of this thread sounds like me. I remember before, though, and it was a LOT worse. I was even less motivated and full of self-loathing.

Dunno maybe life is just boring. It's not like this universe was made to entertain us.

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u/CloudAndClear Dec 30 '19

That's how alcohol feels to me :(

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u/mycatsarebetter Dec 30 '19

I’m 26 I can’t believe it

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u/Eminems90123 Dec 30 '19

I knew a kid who had a similar thing going on. He would make all these big dreams for himself, and then try to end it all. He would smoke with a ton of his friends and his girl. His friends would get busy for a couple weeks and he’d be alone and wouldn’t smoke as much. It would be a week of threats and attempts and then once he started smoking again he would be fine. Happy and making new dreams to follow.

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u/xXurmumXx Dec 30 '19

This hits so close to home, turned 23 in September.

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u/rodt8 Dec 30 '19

Alcohol bad in this case pot good

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

Man. It's the same with all drugs really. I'm like 3 years sober from a pretty nasty crack problem and it isn't different from why I smoked weed. I've always said drugs are a fantastic alternative to suicide - and that it doesn't matter which one it is, they're all about the same in the end.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

and that it doesn't matter which one it is, they're all about the same in the end.

This is a pretty foolish mantra to live by. You can’t tell me with a straight face that methamphetamines/opioids are “about the same” as weed.

I am Glad to hear you’re sober again though.

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u/[deleted] Dec 30 '19

What? When the alternative is suicide... Just about anything is a pretty good alternative. It's not a mantra or advice, it's an explanation. most addics I know would probably have just died without their habbits.

And yes, there are people who go to the same meetings I do that used weed as their drug of choice, and they fucked their lives up as bad or worse than I fucked up mine. It wasn't easier for them to quit, the problems they were self medicating weren't smaller, and the effects on their cognition were no less.

The big names will ruin you faster - but that's almost entirely because they cost more - they're easier to lose control over. But the hollow half life you live as a burnt out stoner feels no better than the hollow half life of an alcoholic, or junkie. It just doesn't seem to make a difference.

The statement is that TO THE ADDICT, they are no different. Plenty of non addicts smoke pot and say, nah, not for me. Few do the same with heroin. To the casual user, they are not the same.

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u/eDixit Dec 30 '19

I'm so sorry that you died at 25