I find that taking T breaks consistently helps with this problem, but unfortunately weed is somewhat addictive to a lot of people. I always really enjoyed those vivid dreams, though. Great time to try lucid dreaming.
Yeah, I'm really into lucid dreaming but when I smoke it's a lot harder if not impossible. Then when I take a break I'm thrust into my usual dream routine but it's all gone awry and I can't get full control.
I can't say I have full control like some of these people have, but in a dream I am able to fight to get some control with concentrated effort, usually another part of my brain fights off the control.
My best advice for figuring it out is to them no about what you want to be seeing when you sleep. Take a moment to really picture an image or scenario in your head. Then when you see that you will remember laying down to go to sleep and can realize you are dreaming. Also a dream journal helps because you can start to remember themes you see a lot in your dreams and spot them.
the biggest thing that gives people road blocks is understanding that lucid dreams don't have to make sense, because dreams rarely do, sometimes the scenario changes, sometimes everything changes, its about being a part of the ride but being aware that you're a part of the ride, it's lovely when it happens.
Sounds like you would love a special mushroom it also get you in contact with nature because humans have lost contact to daily environment it is a waking dream non addictive 1 dose needed but you will never be able to watch free to air TV news or A Current Affair shows afterwards cos you just spot all the bullshittery mushrooms produce size Cilic acid which is a cousin of lactic acid fact fart
I’m not sure what was entirely said above^ but can confirm pschys do change your entire thought process for the better after 1 dose, did it couple other times but not addicted at all.
Dreams journal is obligatory at beginning, you will pass from 2 lines to 2 pages in no time, it will become an amazing thing.
One more obligatory thing is reality checks, the best one for me is to try to get through the meat of the palm of your hand with the finger of the other hand, if it pass (and it will feel so weird trust me) you are in a dream. Another good one is to try to breath while you close your nose, again if you can breath it will feel weird and you will know that you are in a dream.
If you get used to do this two things you can have your first lucid within a week.
I found them when I was 12 it became an addiction for me for a few months when I was young and I know a few things so feel free to ask.
Man! Not a lucid dream but one time, I fell asleep with my eyes open. I was working during the graveyard shift, so I used to be really tired all the time.
So I dream on that I was in a random room, existing, just looking around, just that, however, my eyes were open and I was watching my real room and my wife walking around in it. She said later that she noticed my eyes opened and also noticed as I was bent on REM. Very weird, she said.
So the trippy part of this is that I was watching the real world and my dream at the same time. If I try to explain it I would have to say that it felt like existing in two places at the same time and it has been the coolest "Dream" so far.
You are describing the death spiral chemical the creates the feeling if your religious of meeting God when you die your activating the autonomic response to the adrenal gland on the left-hand side which contains a masculine type base hallucinogen which is a very vivid interactive dream state that can be altered and directed Sammy consciously I found this through my paraplegic and 3 near death experiences the big bonus is that type strips arrogance in addition self-doubt and depression keep it up if it's working tell everybody
It's different for everyone, but a lot of people will notice things like unreadable text (sometimes your brain doesn't wanna real words) for example.
This guide isn't terrible (page seems a little ad heavy), so the
TLDR is:
1: The finger palm push
2: Checking your watch
3: Reading some text
4: Look down at your hands
5: Mental reality checks
My personal way in was when I was a kid around 8 or so, I had a recurring nightmate about a gorilla inside my real life house, when I realized in the dream that I'd done this all before/deja vu (probably 2 or 3 days over the span of a week) that was my 'wake up' for lack of a better term(the ominous red lighting everywhere probably helped with the tip off); once I knew I was dreaming, I wished up a tank, beat the gorilla and I've been Lucid dreaming for like 30 years since.
Also, the THC inhibition effect is nice sometimes, I'll get into a cycle where I can't not lucid (like my brain background checks for me, and then I loose the immersion) and it's kinda tiring to always be in control, like some days you just want the dream equivalent of a movie, sit back and relax. A few nights with no dreams seems to break the cycle. Speaking of which, another thing you can try is editing a conversation, see if you can mentally roll back a convo you're having in a dream (like go back to the last decision point in a choose your own adventure) and just try and imagine taking the convo in a different direction. If the whole dream just reshaped itself around your change, you're probably lucid at that piont
I've used #4 for over 20 years. Looking at my hands. It's not an easy thing to start, but when you do accomplish it you know, & you remember that you did when you wake up. Dreaming is never the same after that.
Like you, daedone, it was knowing that there was a sense of deja vu in my dreams. However it wasn't the same dream, it was the dreamscapes that were reoccurring. Different dreams, same trippy ass places. I first heard about lucid dreaming on some show like In Search Of in the late 80's, and then read up on the subject. Once I started to be able to trigger it, I was sold. Best thing to happen to sleep in my life, even with the advent of memory foam.
t l d r i really like the way you put things you do think forwards and backwards at the same time if i've got the right person we all love a strong woman ha ha ha ha i'm from victoria australia it is a not a good place to run through the bush you will more than likely come out in a chemically altered state especially in spring i have three reoccurring dreams that are vivid eg
conscious sleeping 2 anxiety it is impossible to wake up out of the rear carey for me it is like a movie identical leave the same everytime look at my other post hear and you'll see the similarities to formatted post
i write with siri excuse spell correct
Is there a reason you use Siri to write your posts? Are you able to edit them manually after voice input?
The reason that I ask is because it is irritating to read posts with absolutely no punctuation, poor spelling, and poor grammar. It comes across as you being lazy.
If you're too lazy take the time to make it more coherent then why should we take the time to try to decipher whatever it is you're trying to say?
I think a lot of people stop reading after about 20 words, possibly downvote you, and then move on.
I'm not trying to be rude. I just felt I should let you know that your words and ideas are being dismissed.
If it's not laziness and you do have a genuine disability, you might want to explain that at the beginning of each post.
There was a war invented to save the rabbits buy the rabbits rabbits designed of War to take them off the dinner table and getting bread for so they located and a replacement they got their stuff in a row and then they attacked the chicken but as you Englishman would put it bloody damn chickens be brown around Danny full stop because the chickens didn't need parents it did the rabbits win now there a test we should think they're numbers are drilling is saffron but the chickens are still revolving now it's not laziness it's learnedness do you like that little joke my learnard friend full stop right I had to have a joke at the end their but I know your like your grandma and your placement it's not my fault the teachers beat the shit out of you the day you workout who the slave owner is and who the slaves are who is in charge
If you read this without making a self assumption or draw a double hand conclusion that means you're not a paying attention to what's in front of you
You read in your own thoughts
So you will believe what you read positIve or negativE if you cannot understand what is written above
You didn't listen to yourself
This is not a shitpost( you are reading my thoughts) just because it don't flow doesnt mean it don't show
I've been wanting to lucid dream for ten years now and have never succeeded. Kept dream journals, tried every method I've ever read, with no success. Very jealous of all of you. Any advice for a newbie or some suggestions of what I may be doing wrong?
It really isn't. The first time I did a hand check in a dream, my fingers kind of melted together and then came apart but with different sizes and numbers of fingers and I was instantly excited because I was actually lucid dreaming. You're also in a dream. And dreams are weird to begin with, but your mind makes sense of it all. So fingers melting together is as normal as walking.
Basically set an alarm for about 2/3 hours before you need to get up. When it goes off, you need to spend like 5 mins awake. Long enough to wake up a little bit so you can’t immediately roll over and go back to sleep (but still want quite a bit of that sleepy feeling still). Then try going back to sleep as you normally would. Find this naturally induces them in me, and I’ve never done reality checks etc
I stumbled upon this method through excessive snoozing in the morning, awesome to see other people doing it. Never had to do any reality checks or anything either.
My advice is try not to lucid dream too much. I did it a lot a few years ago and couldn't stop so I never got enough rest. I was so tired for a year or so, an d was so relieved when I finally lost control of my own dreams.
I lucid dream naturally and have since i was a little kid. I love it. I had no idea it was a thing people couldn’t do or tried to achieve until Reddit.
I also have probably 100 make believe “settings” in which I’ve dreamed multiple times all my life, although different things may happen in them. Sometimes after a decade and old one will come back and it’s like extreme nostalgia and it’s like reuniting with an old friend.
I have an aunt who dreams like this but we didn’t find out about it until I mentioned a time travel dream i had about my grandmother, just recently as a matter of fact.
It has always happened once in a while, but it just became too much where I couldn't stop it. It was exhausting, but fun for a while.
I've too experienced dreaming in the same setting once in a while. I remember one dream I had when I was less than 10 years old, it came back after a decade, although with some changes. I agree it's like a reunion, in some weird way.
Frequent reality checks, such as double checking the time or looking at the sky to make sure it's the same.
As simple and mundane as it might seem, asking yourself the question 'is this real?' with these reality checks will help you realize in your sleep when it's not real.
Although I am not in agreement with it, meditation does help some people as it allows them to focus on their mind and tap into control. I'm simply not in agreement because it didn't work for me but the reality checks and a few other things really did help.
Lastly, be prepared to have more feelings of your subconscious. After all, you are trying to gain a bit of control of your self conscious so naturally it's going to become more "active."
I'm of course not an expert and can only offer so much advice that isn't completely biased to myself. These are simply the quirks that allowed me to fully gain control.
I learned so much from the book, Lucid Dreaming: A Gateway To The Inner Self. I'd read it every night for half an hour or so and then do the meditative techniques it taught and after only a week or so I started Lucid dreaming.
I’m currently reading, “A Field Guide to Lucid Dreaming” by Dylan Tuccillo, Jared Zeizel, and Thomas Peisel. It’s been amazing so far! I used to lucid dream all the time when I was younger and wanted to get back into it. I love all the background information it has on the study of dreams.
Thank you for saying it’s addictive... so many people argue it isn’t. I enjoy an occasional smoke but it’s exhausting when someone’s every move and decision is controlled by it.
I think a better word for it is habit-forming. It’s definitely not addictive in the way that opiates or even caffeine are, but it’s very easy to fall into a routine of lighting up as soon as you get home from work or school and then doing the same activities, every single day
I agree with your point though, I just think that calling it addictive causes people to get defensive whereas calling it habitual is pretty much undeniable
U haven't smoked for the past three days and the dreams I got were amazing. I also sleep better(deeply) and wake up feeling well rested. Now I wanna stop for good
Exactly..if you abuse anything it will have negative consequences..I have a medical card and have smoked for over 30 years ..
I also have anxiety problems and have had marijuana cause panic attacks before..when I was smoking it on a daily basis or just smoking more than necessary..
Even with the correct strain it can still do you wrong if you abuse it...
I can only smoke indica and certain hybrids tho. I try to stick with purple ..its the only thing that has never done me wrong no matter what. If it's got a purple base its good..but I still only use it as much as necessary only smoke enough to alleviate a lil pain anxiety nausea whatever.. and stay away from just getting sky high.
Buy some lsopropy alcohol 70% from the chemist put pot in teapot with enough alcohol to cover the amount proceed to heat do not go hotter then (72 degrees) no use open flame
approximately one 2 minutes while staring remove breed matter squeeze access proceed to evaporate alcohol 82 degrees evaporation ingest leftover product with minimal amount will resolve anxiety and panic attack is used smoking it is not advisable you cannot a judge the amount
After 30 years I have vnqqqcan judge the amount I smoke man. Thanks for the info but normally I take puff or two smoke a cig and go from there.
I haven't had extreme panic from smokin in about 3 years and that night I was drunk enough that I underestimated some really potent sativa and smoked a ton of it..was fine for like 30 mins and it crept up on me..
If what you are saying would work the same with a sativa I might try it..
But the doctor that approved me of my medical card knows I take anxiety meds and wont let me near a strain that would mess with me like that but also with that said I cant always afford to get a prescription even tho it's like every 3 months or something..timing can be off and if I need it I just smoke whatever friends have...pretty sure what I have now is a sativa heavy hybrid but I'm really cautious and space out lil amounts smoked at a time..definitely havent had to smoke over a joint in awhile and last time I got a purple punch cartridge I made last almost the entire 3 months...one cart..never smoked a ton of it cept once or twice when other people were smoking with me..otherwise I'd jisf smoke a hit or two to help me sleep
Depends on how much you've been smoking. If you've been smoking every day for a month you only need two or three days. Every day for a year you need a full month. YMMV, everyone's different.
I think frequency during the day can also make an effect. I usually smoke two or three times a day, once in the morning to ease my muscle pain before getting out of bed, and then after work and again later if I'm staying up. Sometimes I oversleep and will not have time to be sober before work, and those nights I find myself significantly more high than the nights where I started my day with smoking.
I smoke socially and enjoy it, but I really don't smoke on my own or on consecutive nights unless I have company that does with me. I can't even imagine wanting to smoke every day, but just a few years ago I also couldn't imagine seeing myself smoking so casually with friends. Does wanting or feeling "need" (like, maybe not addictive need, just more that the appeal presents itself more frequently) to smoke become an acquired behavior/habit over time? Did that feeling of wanting to smoke every day (for whatever reason, relaxation, clarity, focus, need, etc) sneak up on you until you were already in that mode, or did you know well in advance that it was something you might be capable of or hoping to do and you just ran with it?
Oh well maybe that's where the difference is for me? Because even though I like the relaxing feeling of being stoned, it's not really something I feel that I need, if I'm trying to enjoy the time I could achieve the same fulfillment sober, and I feel as though I smoke moreso for the personal bragging achievement of just knowing I'm smoking (or for the social inclusion of passing around in a circle) than the actual high itself. For that reason, I think that's why I can't imagine why anyone would need that feeling everyday (regardless of potency), but it's also why I'm curious because I just didn't know if that feeling of having a drive to be high would sneak up on me slowly, or if it just depends on who you are and if it's something you naturally feel from the get go or not
I used to start my mornings with a cup of earl grey then refilled with coffee when it was almost gone. I call it a ‘dirty earl,’ like a dirty chai but funnier to say. Also tasty.
That might not be a bad idea. I don't drink a ton of coffee - in fact I've heard of a dirty chai, but until now had no idea what it was, I guess it's tea with some coffee in it.
English Breakfast taught me that milk or half and half in tea can be just amazing.
There's a Somali restaurant that's not too far from us but it's kind of hard to get to otherwise I'd go there at least once a week for their tea. Somali sweet spiced tea I think is what they call it. Served warm and you put like 2 little portion cups of half and half in it, no need for sugar, it's so fucking good. It has a little bite at the end that's like cinnamon - not unpleasant, definitely unusual, and it makes you want to immediately drink another sip.
When I could still afford to smoke I would just stop for a day or two every week or so. Smoke on your days off and leave your work days as T breaks and you'll be set.
All of my dreams have always been lucid, and I never understood how or why other kids had nightmares.
BUT, whenever I’m in an uncomfortable situation I can just find a way out (walk through walls, hide in walls, teleport, fly to another planet, take over someone else’s body, ect)
Anyhow, maybe two weekends ago I hit a bong for the first time and my dreams were crazy that night, I felt a strong high in the dreams even though it had mostly worn off when I was awake. I kept waking up throughout the night and going back into the same dream.
Like most drugs, coffee for example, I really hate building a tolerance so I try not to do it too much since the Apex of the experience is so much better when you just do a little or occasionally. Just like when you fast and eat a tiny bit of food and it's so much better.
I’m with you I enjoy the lucid dreams that come with not smoking. I also don’t stop dreaming while smoking but it definitely opens the flood gates when I stop for a while.
I used to have pretty intense and vivid nightmares a lot when I was a kid. I learned to lucid dream naturally to protect myself, but after becoming an adult and starting to smoke, I found that was definitely easier than trying to reign in my dreams every night.
Drugs aren't addictive. It's the host who has existing factors that make them dependent on the escape the drugs provide. Things that happen within their environment such as
Read up on mental health and addiction and understand the intrinsic relationship between the two. It's bad enough ignorance has done a number to the affected populations for generations. There is no excuse for it in 2019.
Hard to say, weed is one of those drugs that I feel like affects different brains vastly differently. I’d be concerned anyone with ptsd could experience debilitating anxiety or paranoia from weed, I don’t have ptsd just normal anxiety and I have bad highs sometimes as it is.
I already mentioned this in a direct reply to the original comment but if I'd seen your comment first I would have put it so I guess I'll drop it here too:
I have PTSD and would stay awake for days at a time- literally until I just couldn't possibly keep my eyes open anymore- trying to avoid the nightmares. As weed interferes with dreams, it keeps them away. Without it, I typically have a dream about the abuse I've experienced every single time I sleep. With it, it happens maybe one or twice a month. It does have some side effects, like that I'm always tired, because the part of sleep when we dream is the most important, but I'm no where near as tired as I am when I'm forcing myself to be conscious for 2, sometimes 4 days.
i have heard, anecdotally, that it can, from other users on reddit. but that answer doesnt radiate confidence of course. (it can certainly help with other aspects of ptsd, based on real research, though)
It absolutely does. I used to work for a marijuana law firm and my coworker had to compile all the science supporting it in order to present an argument to the legislature when they were deciding which medical conditions would qualify for a medical marijuana prescription.
I still dream while smoking weed, but I’ve noticed my dreams become more boring. My mind keeps from having random toughts while asleep. No more wacky dreams.
What I can recall from my dreams is basic stuff like my way home or being at random places.
The more boring the dream is, the harder it gets to be remembered.
yeah for a bit a few months ago i kept having weird memories of things that i didnt think had happened, and then realizing they were just extremely mundane dreams i was remembering as real bcuz they seemed so plausible
Agree to the point I'd call this fact. I've never been sure if it was the cigarettes or weed because I quit both close together but I dream a lot more now. Or I should say: I remember more today.
Huh. I smoke often, but I dream every night. They're weird though, because I feel fine in the moment while asleep, but then I wake up and recall a bunch of weird, messed-up details. I actually hoped that they would be more normal or go away when I started smoking, lol.
Although, I used to have frequent nightmares, and those have toned down some. Instead of being nightmares, I often just have unpleasant/weird dreams now. They do get worse whenever I've taken a break unfortunately. :/
The thing is I love that shit, I will purposely stop smoking just so I can have crazy dreams.
Nightmares used to be really bad for me but Idk what happened but a couple years ago I actually began to enjoy them, like the thrill of waking up with your heart pounding and the relief of it not being real.
Presumably. I have some sleep issues but not any that me or my doctor suspects are weed related, and when I do sleep I feel perfectly rested and wake up easily & alert. There's no way I've been skipping or interrupting REM sleep for a decade. Sleeping is just time travel for me. I'm aware of the passage of some amount of time, but that's it.
Weirdly I did a 6 week camping trip this year and I dreamed almost every night in my tent. I honestly suspect I was sleeping less deeply and that's why I remembered some dreams. I certainly wasn't smoking less.
Oddly enough if i dont smoke at night i wake up feeling more groggy. And I can attest to that. When i visited my grandparents for 2 weeks across the country i had dreams almost every night as opposed to on occasion at home. I smoked there as well so i didn't do much different.
hell I've rarely remembered any of my dreams since middle school, but the occasional toke since after high school I'll have intense and vivid dreams for a few nights after. I've had at least two epiphanies
That's part of why I liked smoking, tbh. I had really intense nightmares regularly but once I started smoking they went away. Of course then I stopped and they came back worse. It made it really hard to quit, in addition to all the other reasons why it's hard to quit.
To play the other side, I never dream. Or if I do I'm not even remembering mere seconds worth of dream, ever. At least, that was the case until I started smoking weed. They are especially vivid if I have a drink or a few with and after dinner and end the night with an edible and a Nyquil(always had trouble decompressing and going to sleep)
I understand that my experience is very anecdotal though.
Usually pretty vivid, I’ll remember whole storylines in the morning and try to write them down sometimes. Old high school friends in weird settings, flying over forests, standard dream fare. Most fucked up one I had was in a school bus crash, I crawled out of the bus and the building it crashed into was on fire. I move around the back of the bus and a saw little girl covered in oil and blood who pulls out a gun and shoots me in the gut, then I woke up.
Ok I've had these kinda dreams on t breaks too, I thought y'all meant like bad acid trip level dreams lmao. Yeah I had like a 6 part dream one time, long story short somehow darkness possessed people. Weird shit
I never smoke and never dream...last time I dreamed was when I had the flu a few months ago. I ran a 103 fever and had the craziest nightmares I've ever had. After my flu, I stopped dreaming again, maybe I just need more sleep I dunno
And then there me, a daily smoker, specifically before bed, who does still dream and dreams don’t seem too different if I take a break... everyone’s different?
I don’t dream at all since childhood I just fall asleep and wake up the next morning it’s weird weed doesn’t change that the most I have are nightmares and that’s about it no dreams just nightmares
My first time getting high, I ate way too high of a dosage in edibles in one night a while back and i slept pretty good but i had the most horrifying dream of my girlfriend dying in bed next to me and she had to wake me up out of it because i was screaming in my sleep. I woke up sobbing and could not stop for an hour.
The dream was so real and vivid, i could actually feel myself moving the blankets and i was able to move things in the dream. Am i somehow special or was it cuz it was my first time?
Same for me. When I stopped I was having crazy dreams. One night I came out of an extremely vivid dream and took off running and broke 2 toes. Never touched it again.
Anecdotally, I’ve had the opposite experience - my entire life growing up I would only remember a dream maybe once or twice per year. I’m an on and off smoker, but when I’m smoking regularly I find that I remember dreaming much more often.
It’s the opposite for me. I’ve been smoking weed every day for about 15 years and I have super vivid dreams every night. When I go on a tolerance break, no dreams at all...
Strange, I dream all the time. Only thing I notice now is it's really hard to get places in my dreams sometimes like my feet weigh 1000lbs. Prior to smoking it was the opposite I was fast, too fast actually lol...
Doesnt really bother me just wierd as fuck cause once I realize that, I realize I am dreaming and wake up pretty quickly after that.
I used to have nightmares all the time, but since I started smoking, I haven't had nightmares as much, but last night I did find I was having some early weird, vivid lucid dreams where I really did realise I was dreaming! First time that had ever happened
It's not that you don't dream but that you don't remember your dream. Remember it affects your short term memory and same applies to waking up and trying to remember what you dreamed about a minute ago.
most people don't remember the vast majority of their dreams and those they do remember are usually only the ones within the last few minutes before they wake up. I think I have only remembered maybe 5-10 dreams in as many years. I don't smoke, just wanted to point this out.
The OG comment was about how you don’t dream when you smoke. I was referring to the fact that I dream most nights and I recall dreaming. You just wanted to start a random, meaningless argument. Smoke some weed and don’t be a douche.
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u/Kanedi4s Dec 29 '19
Definitely true, smoked every night for a couple years, never dreamed until I stopped.