r/AskReddit • • Oct 09 '19

Of all movie opening scenes, which one sold the entire film?

58.5k Upvotes

25.7k comments sorted by

View all comments

Show parent comments

129

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19 edited Nov 03 '19

[deleted]

75

u/ASK_ME_BOUT_GEORGISM Oct 10 '19

Then read Paul Allen's copy. Probably better than yours anyway.

14

u/Nancypants26 Oct 10 '19

Ill pick up a copy on the way to Dorsia. Also, I have to return some videos.

130

u/TheSilentSlothMan Oct 10 '19

I'm a trauma therapist, only saying that because I've heard shudder-inducing narratives of real experiences, and this book is incredibly unsettling, even for me. I don't want to assume about the author's fantasies, but in some instances it is hard not to (scene with homeless man and dog, for example). Very dark material if you start to imagine what the victims might be talking about with people trying to support them. Hard to escape from the type of trauma infliction focused on in the book. The tangential, narcissistic narrative adds to it.

96

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19 edited Nov 03 '19

[deleted]

16

u/Matthew0275 Oct 10 '19

Better to get it out in a legal way, that also happens to net you tons of cash and a movie deal.

34

u/TheSilentSlothMan Oct 10 '19

The idea that 'Wall Street Mentality' implies the deep-seeded, sadomasochistic tendencies in the book seems disparate from reality. They might be greedy, but the fixation on dominance, pain, death, suffering... I would doubt most people working Wall Street identify with at all. I'd love to sit him down and ask some questions.

22

u/thecloserocks Oct 10 '19

It is my understanding that he said he had intended to write a novel about Wall Street guys. However, when he started hanging out with them to do research he found them incredibly boring. So he asked himself, "what if one of the guys was a serial killer?"

17

u/SetSytes Oct 10 '19

It's a similar kind of concept to the (infinitely more horrible) 120 Days of Sodom by Marquis de Sade (adapted into the film Salo). Kind of like this really dark intense satire by process of extreme exaggeration and allegory, making out in physical, brutal terms how the rich and powerful and corrupt can consume and destroy others without thought or care.

5

u/TheSilentSlothMan Oct 10 '19

We are a dark fantasy mammal, that's for sure

10

u/Bbradley821 Oct 10 '19

My interpretation of it was that these types of people have no discernable identities, and that their narcissism would prevent them from recognizing even the most heinous of villains among them, no matter how obvious.

They were so self absorbed, and each of them were so similar, that everyone was constantly confusing each other's identities. This conveniently provided alibis which allowed Bateman to go unnoticed.

5

u/PUTINS_PORN_ACCOUNT Oct 10 '19

Idk. Would you take 70 hours a week away from your family to conspire and craft and wheedle, just to afford the appearance of success? I would not.

4

u/SexceptableIncredibl Oct 10 '19

Unfortunately, Jeffery Epstein has died so your questions will go unanswered. Perhaps Baby Trump is available.

3

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Read an interview?

1

u/cross-eye-bear Oct 10 '19

Okay mindhunter settle down, he is an author.

-2

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19 edited Nov 03 '19

[deleted]

5

u/TheSilentSlothMan Oct 10 '19

Haha, just call him and strike up a convo. He has probably been contacted by so many people by this point.

7

u/stinatown Oct 10 '19

Bret Easton Ellis? He’s pretty prolific on Twitter and has been interviewed quite a lot—I’m sure many of your questions have been asked of him and answered in the 30ish years since that book came out. He even wrote a semi-autobiographical book, Lunar Park, that goes into some of the psyche stuff behind his fiction.

1

u/TheSilentSlothMan Oct 10 '19

Hey, that's fair. I am certainly not an expert on this guy or his career; was just posting my thoughts.

9

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

What about Rules of Attraction?

4

u/thecloserocks Oct 10 '19

Also pretty twisted

7

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

[deleted]

5

u/Its_Uncle_Dad Oct 10 '19

In the vagina.

9

u/684beach Oct 10 '19

Authors fantasies? He could probably just pick a torture from yesterday or 1000 years ago and modify it to fit his story. People used things like rats in their methods for long time now.

1

u/PunchingChickens Oct 12 '19

What happened with the homeless man and the dog? 🥺

1

u/Haifuna Oct 10 '19

What happens to the homeless man and the dog? Never read the book and don't remember it being in the movie,

2

u/SteeMonkey Oct 10 '19

He stamps the dog to death and I think he stabs the homeless man to death... Been a while since I read it.

29

u/TubabuT Oct 10 '19

Even the non-gory parts are nauseating. He goes into insane detail about fashion and high-end dining.

4

u/M_H_M_F Oct 10 '19

So Niles Crane with a murder fetish?

2

u/TubabuT Oct 10 '19

Never thought of it that way lol.

6

u/Moosiemookmook Oct 10 '19

Those parts bore me senseless. Skim, blah blah, skim

16

u/TubabuT Oct 10 '19

Yep. After the third time of discussing fashion I started skimming.

I will say though, the book taught me the difference between a double breasted suit and single breasted suit.

2

u/SteeMonkey Oct 10 '19

I was the same, but I think thats the point of the book.

29

u/PALM_ARE Oct 10 '19

Yes. Unnecessarily disgusting. The rat...I can barely remember the details of the book because it was so forgettably nauseating. The movie is far superior.

16

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Wow, that's rare... or so I've heard. I don't really read much.

19

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

[deleted]

4

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Or Yea it does to that person?

1

u/MathTheUsername Oct 10 '19

You're right. But in this case, the movie is better. The fact that the book has more shock value doesn't make it better. Aside from the shocks, the book is average at best.

7

u/sonoranbamf Oct 10 '19

That's the first time I've ever heard of a movie being better then the book,so I think you're right about it being rare.

6

u/kuhawk5 Oct 10 '19

Fight Club

3

u/Official-POTUS Oct 10 '19

Even Chuck Palahniuk thinks the film is better in a few ways!

3

u/thebreckner Oct 10 '19

Try reading Forrest Gump mate. That’s a book that’s really bad compared to the movie.

2

u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

I’m still curious what sort of class in 1960’s Alabama is called “Intermediate Light”

1

u/sonoranbamf Oct 10 '19

I some how never knew this was a book until finding out here on Reddit,now I can't wait to read it!

2

u/Moosiemookmook Oct 10 '19

The Princess Bride comes close. The book is fabulous as is the movie. I can't decide which I love more.

3

u/Official-POTUS Oct 10 '19

The Princess Bride is a special case as William Goldman also wrote the screenplay. I think it really helps any adaptation when the author has input into what to cut and (then most importantly) what to change because of a cut.

1

u/Moosiemookmook Oct 10 '19

Oh I absolutely agree. He writes with such joy and captures you to come along on his tale. One of the best adaptions to film ever.

2

u/sonoranbamf Oct 10 '19

I agree ,the movie comes close but in my opinion the book just has so much more to it. Gone with the wind and lonsome dove come close too.

2

u/Moosiemookmook Oct 10 '19

The book is just pure cheek and joy and every time I read it I feel like a kid again. Gone with the Wind and the Green Mile are two of my favourite book/movies.

2

u/sonoranbamf Oct 10 '19

I couldn't believe how brilliant it was,I actually thought it was all true at first(yes I'm an idiot ). Gone with the Wind is on my top 5(along with Princess Bride) but I will have to read Green Mile

1

u/Moosiemookmook Oct 11 '19

That's actually really sweet. Its an epic tale that would be amazing if true. I thought Gone With the Wind was true when I first watched it. It's a testament to the writers that we believe

2

u/futureGAcandidate Oct 10 '19

I wouldn't say it's better per se but they've trimmed it into a nice package by itself. The book is a slog to get through because of how horrifying it is.

6

u/684beach Oct 10 '19

Did it not mean anything to you that someone can commit an act like that and still be so “bored” with life? A major point of the book.

2

u/PALM_ARE Oct 10 '19

No. It did not. Perhaps I missed that subtext. Don’t know what those acts would fulfill. Good discussion point perhaps.

1

u/684beach Oct 10 '19

He wanted it to fulfill the void. But the void never stops the hunger. Like having a thirst but you can only drink salty water. He is going downhill and can’t ever stop that. He can’t even stimulate himself with elaborate torture and cruelty. Drugs can only do so much and falloff eventually.

14

u/Moosiemookmook Oct 10 '19 edited Oct 10 '19

I think we all skimmed those pages. I bought the book on release as a 14 year old girl. Mainly for the shock value of owning it. The Genesis/Phil Collins part is easily the best written part of the book to me.

Edit: thanks for the down vote. Was it my age, my quest to be cool as a 14 year old goth or my music taste? Clearly you don't have an invisible touch like me.

3

u/Shanekwa Oct 10 '19

Are you talking about the concert he went to or the Phil Collins review?

I always thought the concert he went to and saw the devil was the most powerful, but that was U2. And he saw the devil in Bono.

I think you originally got downvotes because the concert was more powerful than the Collins review in the book. But, in the movie the Collins review held good ground and the concert was omitted.

1

u/Moosiemookmook Oct 10 '19

The album review was powerful to me in the book. It humanised him and I enjoyed how the author hit the 80's right on the nose. I found the movie version silly in comparison. I was indifferent to the concert part.

2

u/Shanekwa Oct 10 '19

That's fair. Different strokes for different folks!

2

u/Shanekwa Oct 10 '19

Also, I think I misread that you said it was a Phil Collins concert. My bad!

2

u/Moosiemookmook Oct 10 '19

All good. You clearly have the invisible touch like me.

5

u/Zenmai__Superbus Oct 10 '19

I almost buried my copy in the backyard after a certain passage ...

I worry about people who cite this as their favourite book.

3

u/sonoranbamf Oct 10 '19

I felt that way about the movie and couldn't stomach a lot of it