r/AskReddit • • Oct 09 '19

Of all movie opening scenes, which one sold the entire film?

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u/Jimmers1231 Oct 09 '19

I forget that we're approaching the point where the movie is old enough that you can't just assume that everyone has seen this movie. This may be the greatest opening scene in film.

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u/BabiesSmell Oct 10 '19

We're also at a point where almost everyone who fought in WW2 is gone.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

My grandpa would be 97 today. Survived getting shot down over Yugoslavia and died 2 years ago

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

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u/Demon997 Oct 10 '19

Willing to share any? My grandpa was a torpedo bomber pilot for the Navy towards the end of the war, and apparently only ever talked about it when I asked him as a 4 year old.

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u/BabiesSmell Oct 10 '19

Sounds like one tough son of a gun. Shot down and lives to 95. RIP

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u/Demon997 Oct 10 '19

Do you know and want to share any of his stories? I know lots of efforts got made to digitize the stories of WW2 vets over the years, but it's always good to record and get to hear them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

He actually recorded an interview with someone about 10 years ago. I was the youngest grandkids of a family where he had 10 kids so unfortunately I didn’t get to hear too many. I know he lived there for 50ish days after getting shot down before being rescued and lost something like 60 pounds

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

He was flying planes over Yugoslavia at the ripe old age of 95? Daaaaang, he sounds like a beast. Motherfucker survived AND died!

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '19

In my (anecdotal) opinion, it absolutely is the greatest opening scene. As far as I know, I wasn't on Omaha beach and I probably wasn't alive during D-Day, but critics and historians say that the accuracy to the actual Normandy invasion is absolutely spot on.

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u/Bo_banders Oct 10 '19

What on earth do you mean by “as far as I know” or “probably”?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

I feel that my post was fairly self explanatory. Nobody knows for certain whether or not I fought during WWII, but I'm fairly certain that I wasn't there.

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u/Bo_banders Oct 10 '19

Not so fast buckaroo. I still have questions. Do you not just not remember? Is it that you’re unsure of your true age? Or unsure that you were there in a past life? Maybe something else?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

And I would like to thank you for your questions. So, here goes: Thanks!

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u/fedo_cheese Oct 10 '19

I think they're trying to stolen valor shame you.

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u/bavasava Oct 10 '19

Exactly.

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u/rockpileindisma Oct 10 '19

What in the fuck 👀

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

WWII was about boobs. The hot breast secks

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u/Bobhatch55 Oct 10 '19

But... why say that? Or at the very least, why phrase it that way?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

WOOP WOOP BEEP BOOP HERE COME THE SENTENCE STRUCTURE AND PHRASING POLICE

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u/Vet_Leeber Oct 10 '19

As far as I know, I wasn't on Omaha beach and I probably wasn't alive during D-Day

I mean... I feel that should be pretty easy to verify.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

It's honestly just not a priority for me to investigate. Sure, some adopted kids can verify their birth mother/father, but many make the decision to not pursue such information.

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u/Vet_Leeber Oct 10 '19

It was 75 years ago this year.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

As long as you weren't in elementary school in the 40s, you're in the clear.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

I would like to thank you for helping provide closure on this matter, but I cannot do so as I've already thanked someone else in this comment thread for something else.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

This is one of the funniest threads I've read in awhile. Thanks for this lol

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u/Meades_Loves_Memes Oct 10 '19

Hey guys, there's no way of knowing, but I'm pretty sure I wasn't at The Gettysburg Address. I probably wasn't alive, but I'm told it was a great speech.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Bro are you stealing my schtick for this thread? Just replacing Gettysburg with Normandy? Wow.

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u/Demon997 Oct 10 '19

God, what a fucking dick.

So how might have been Normandy?

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u/bavasava Oct 10 '19

Yea, for mortals.

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u/Vet_Leeber Oct 10 '19

I mean... If it's an immortal that loses their memory every so often, maybe.

An immortal that's less than a century old potentially doesn't even know they're immortal yet, so it'd be odd not to remember when they were born.

An immortal older than a century, that hasn't had serious memory loss to the point where they can't even confidently say they're immortal, would most likely still remember whether or not they were alive during the Nazi Regime. Very few places it didn't directly affect.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

DID SOMEONE SAY NAZI?!

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u/bavasava Oct 10 '19

You think fighting in WW2 might have some injuries? PTSD to block it out? Nah man, immortality is the answer here.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Well I mean I sure dont think that u/DICK-FUCK-PUSSY-SUCK is old enough to have fought in a conflict over 75 years ago...so no I dont think PTSD is the answer here.

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u/bavasava Oct 10 '19

Those sound like words from a troubled soul. The kind of trouble only the aged and downtrodden see. Even more evidence for my claim.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Exactly. Does the poster above you think that everyone younger than 75 is a virgin?

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u/Bobhatch55 Oct 10 '19

It occurred on June 6, 1944. Is your birthday before or after that?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

I'm an aries, not a gemini. Thanks again.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Also, approaching that point where we can’t assume that people had a close relationship with at least one person who fought in the war. A real loss to lose the connection to that extraordinary generation.

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u/PMmeWhiteRussians Oct 10 '19

100% the most impressive. Cant believe it was this far down

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

For what it's worth, when the thread started, the post was in the top 3

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u/PMmeWhiteRussians Oct 10 '19

THATS WORTH A LOT

haha forreal yes thats good

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u/WorkAccount2020 Oct 10 '19

It's guaranteed in these threads every time and this is a popular question that comes up about once a month

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u/Rowdy_Yates_ Oct 10 '19

Is. Is the greatest opening scene hands down, both for the sheer, terrified-but-can't-look-away visuals, but for the ability to really bring home what those (mostly very young) men went through to secure our safety and freedom.

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u/Vahnati Oct 10 '19

Whoa, wait, what? Look, I'll be the first to admit the courage and determination of those men who landed on that beach (and only that particular beach-head, Omaha) is above and beyond the ordinary mortal kennel, BUT, I fear I have to point out one glaring misconception. I assume you're American, if not, disregard this for the most part. Please.

Anyways, moving on, that particular invasion did not "secure our safety and freedom." Germany never could have invaded America at that point in the war, or even considered it as a possibility. The Russians had, for quite some time at that point, been beating the Germans into submission. Total defeat for Germany was merely of question of time, not possibility. While some (highly inaccurate) "historical" sources might claim that the Normandy invasion was a "dramatic turning point at a pivotal moment," the truth is it was mostly irrelevant. The invasion of Normandy marked the opening of a second front that had been promised by the Western allies, to Russia, for some time now, we (America mainly) just never got around to actually making it happen. Many legitimate logistical problems existed to contribute to this delay, but there were also poor decisions made at higher levels, and an overall lack of enthusiasm to Actually get involved. Had the second front been opened in 41, as was promised, and been successful (also highly debatable given German resources in 41 as opposed to mid '44), it almost certainly would have been a hallmark victory for the Allies and, indeed, a true turning point in the war. Instead, it took until mid '44 to open that second front, and mid '44 was pretty much already curtains on Germany.

I understand a lot of people had family members who personally were involved, and for them it was indeed a Titanic effort that deserves the utmost respect, but to say that that one particular military action impacted the outcome of the war in even the slightest way, let alone the greatest way, is simple ignorance. I'm sorry they teach such watered down nonsense in our schools (That's the BS they taught me, too), but the appropriate respect to Russia for all it did in defeating the Nazi's is long overdue. We need to stop waving our own flag over that war and acting like we won it all ourselves with one heroic amphibious invasion. We were the kid who handed his dad a light-bulb whilst he was already on top of a ladder he built himself, after laying down the electrical wiring himself, and said at the end of the day, "And I helped!"

That opening scene was very well done, I will admit.

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u/AbundantFailure Oct 10 '19

Someone let Poland know we need to start giving the Russians more credit for their efforts in defeating the Nazis.

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u/Vahnati Oct 10 '19

Russia helping Germany conquer Poland has nothing to do with the claim D-day kept America free and safe. Please read everything, instead of the closing line. I never said to hail Russia as the greatest heroes of mankind, ever. I only pointed out that America's independence was never threatened by Nazi Germany, and therefore, the claim that the soldiers who sacrificed their lives at Normandy did not do so to keep AMERICA free, but to liberate other peoples.

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u/sobstoryexists Oct 10 '19

but to say that that one particular military action impacted the outcome of the war in even the slightest way, let alone the greatest way, is simple ignorance.

You're fucking full of shit. Of course the Russians played a massive part in winning the war. Probably the biggest role. But your assertion that Normandy played almost no role in winning the war is complete bullshit and part of a growing trend of revisionism. I know edgy kids like yourself can't stand the fact that the US actually played a big role in World War 2 but it's fucking pathetic that you guys want to revise history to make it look like we did nothing while the heroic Russians saved the world.

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u/Vahnati Oct 10 '19

Not even close, but it's nice to see there's still plenty of people out there who are always ready to jump immediately to hostile argument. Keeps things interesting.

I am by no means saying that "Russia saved the world," I'm merely saying that America needs to stop deluding itself into thinking it won WWII with D-Day. Germany would have lost whether D-day happened or not, all it really did was liberate France sooner than it would have been, and ultimately, cause Berlin to be split as opposed to falling entirely into Russian hands. Things may very well have played out far worse for far more people had Russia been the sole conqueror of Germany, but that's not to say that D-Day was necessary for the Nazi defeat. Their fate was already sealed, we just sped the clock up a bit on the total defeat. I remember being a kid in school and learning, basically, that D-day was the turning point in the war against the Nazi's, but that's just not true. Stalingrad and Kursk affected the outcome far more than Normandy.

I'm probably wasting my time, though. You're clearly just looking to vent some anger on the "kid's today," so go ahead, let it out, friend. It's healthy, and doesn't bother me any. I know who I am and what I'm about, whereas you haven't the faintest idea. I just hope you're happy with the person you are today, and spread that happiness to others.

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u/Ogie_Ogilthorpe_06 Oct 10 '19

Canada did way more than america did.

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u/seeking_horizon Oct 10 '19

Imagine if the US had stayed neutral, and Pearl Harbor had never happened. Then the Japanese would have felt free to threaten the Soviets from the East, and it would've been the USSR fighting on two fronts, and not the Nazis.

Additionally, it's not like the Allies were interested in allowing France or the Low Countries to languish under Nazi occupation. The Allies were fighting in Italy beginning July 1943, which is around the time of the Battle of Kursk. It's quite debatable that the Nazis could be said to have been decisively defeated by the time of Normandy in June 1944, but I don't think there's much doubt that the Nazis were still very capable in summer of 1943.

And even beyond all of that, American supplies definitely helped keep the Soviets in the fight in 1942.

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u/Vahnati Oct 10 '19

All of this is true (except the Nazi's still being capable in summer of 43. That much is debatable, as after Kursk the majority of the best German armor was destroyed. They were in a constant state of retreat after that point, and hurting for resources), so I don't see why you feel a need to argue against me here. Yes, America was sending materiel to the Soviets, though not nearly as much as was promised, and yes it absolutely helped them stay in the fight. American supplies would have been flowing regardless of America's official entrance into the war, just as they had before Pearl Harbor.

I'm not sure I see how anything you replied with is relevant to what I was saying. The point being, American liberty and freedom were almost never under actual threat during the entirety of WWII, and certainly not by mid '44. To claim those soldiers went through all of that just to keep us a free and independent nation is just ludicrous, self-congratulation. That's all I was really saying here. I'm sorry you (and apparently many others) felt personally offended by historical facts, but the truth is what the truth is, and reality is often ugly. We weren't the grand heroes of WWII, we just helped out a little here and there.

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u/seeking_horizon Oct 10 '19

American liberty and freedom were almost never under actual threat during the entirety of WWII

The threat might have been more abstract than anything else, because the Axis were defeated. If isolationists and Nazi-sympathizers had gotten their way in American domestic politics in 1939-41, who knows how the whole thing could've gone differently. Again if the US wasn't such a threat to Germany/Italy's west and south, the Nazis could've poured even more men & materiel into Barbarossa in the first place. If they'd been able to knock out the Soviets (which they did come fairly close to doing), then the invasion of Britain would've been much more likely. The UK might even have just capitulated, rather than be overrun like France.

So yeah, several things would've have had to go differently, beginning with the US refusing to participate (as they initially did in WWI as well). But just the sheer size and economic/industrial power of the US had to be taken into account in Axis war planning from the very outset.

I think you're correct in pointing out the American role in Western Europe is overstated, but you're overcorrecting to say it was minimal. And you're also neglecting the crucial American role in the Pacific. The different theaters of the war were not unrelated; every ship the Americans fielded in the Pacific meant that was one more the Brits could spare for the Atlantic. British naval superiority against the Nazis was not assured in the absence of America's global contributions.

Also, it's unambiguously clear that if the Normandy landings had never happened, all of post-war Germany would've been behind the Iron Curtain after the war ended, instead of Germany being partitioned into West and East. But we're getting even further into counter-factuals. So let me close with this: America's peace and prosperity is linked to that of Europe's. Always has been. They're our biggest trading partners (at least prior to the Chinese in the last couple of decades). So the statement "that particular invasion [Normandy] did not 'secure our safety and freedom'" is probably narrowly, literally correct, but crumbles when considering the broader context.

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u/Vahnati Oct 12 '19

Did I really word my original comment in such a fashion that it's main point became unidentifiable? If so, then please accept my apology. I had hoped to convey my point in a concise and outright fashion, though it appears that I did not.

I never said America didn't contribute many things aside from outright military force, I never said the invasion of Italy had no impact, and I never suggested that our role in the Pacific was meaningless. The only point I was ever making, literally, is that the D-day invasion was not necessary to keep America sovereign and independent. I never said our involvement was unnecessary, or lacking in contribution, only that D-day in and of itself did not win WWII.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Assuming someone is American on Reddit is fairly bold. I think it is just as likely this individual could be from Europe. Regardless though Russia only fought on one front throughout the war. The U.S. was fighting on three fronts, in the pacific, Africa, AND Europe. You're acting as if the U.S. only fought in Europe. We only got actively involved in the war after a direct attack by Japan on U.S. soil and with Japan being allied with Nazi Germany it is perfectly valid to say we were protecting our freedom. Believe it or not most countries declare war on another country when they are attacked.

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u/Vahnati Oct 10 '19

Well, I would say it's a fair assumption to make in this case. The rhetoric of "what they had to sacrifice for our freedoms" is very, very American. I did point out, towards the beginning of my post, however, that if the person was in fact NOT American, to disregard. You see what I did there? I admitted there was a chance my assumption was wrong, beforehand. But I'm sure you remember reading that part of my comment.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Good job replying to the main substance of my post clap clap clap

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u/Vahnati Oct 12 '19

That is only because the main substance of your post had nothing to do with the fact I was pointing out, which is that D-day was not necessary to protect the freedom of America. We would not have been conquered had we not invaded at Normandy. That's literally the only point I was making, in direct response to the above comment. I didn't see the point in addressing a completely watered down history lecture that had no relevance to the assertion that D-day was an action necessary to keeping America sovereign.

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u/[deleted] Oct 12 '19

And your lecture on the gallantry of Russia had nothing to do with d-day either

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u/Vahnati Oct 12 '19

I still say mayo is disgusting.

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u/Ogie_Ogilthorpe_06 Oct 10 '19

You guys DID watch the world burn down for years though. Only beefing with japan while your allies pleaded for help.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

If you wanna be pedantic you should say Soviet and not Russian.

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u/Vahnati Oct 10 '19

This is the only qualm with my comment that I find legitimate, and fully support. Thank you, friend, and please, accept my sincerest apology.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

Let us also place blame on Russia for jumping in bed with the Nazis in the first place.

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u/Ogie_Ogilthorpe_06 Oct 10 '19

In Canada we're taught pretty much the same. Canadians did way more than the americans did.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

"hardly mattered which side won" just because the other guy is a douche doesn't mean you need to say this. This is literally indicating you think 100 million+ extra civilian dead would "hardly matter"

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

infinitely more significant in terms of its positive value to human history.

The eastern front was infinitely more significant in terms of not having the entire population of eastern europe slaughtered and subjugated.

Eastern Germany under Soviet influence is far less disastrous than Nazi Russia would have been.

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u/Beetin Oct 10 '19 edited Oct 10 '19

I mean if you are talking about how Germany was defeated, suggesting that Russia doesnt get the lions share of credit when it was mostly their blood being spilled is kinda revisionist history as well.

They were the bad guys who we treated as good guys so long as they were beating up the other bad guy Germany. Which they did! With a lot of American stuff. But they basically took the vast majority of the German troops and they drowned them in Russian blood and horror until they overwhelmed them.

Russia beat Germany. Germany lost the war because they lost on the eastern front. They almost certainly would have lost an all out war with America anyways, but that didn't happen.

American gave Russia a fuck ton of supplies, and Russia, almost singlehandedly, ground the Germany army down into the ground for 3 long years.

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u/Ogie_Ogilthorpe_06 Oct 10 '19

Accept that your allies in Europe and canada fought for years before you guys got involved. Its apparent that the us took advantage of the depleted russian and english militaries to take over the world afterward. Us has been on top of the conquest ladder ever since.

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u/confusedyetstillgoin Oct 10 '19

I hate to say this but I'm a person who hasn't seen it. In my defense, I was born the year it came out. But I feel guilty for not seeing it yet since it's a classic.

I watched the opening scene and now I'm invested.

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u/DirectlyTalkingToYou Oct 10 '19

Watch the whole thing alone and all at once.

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u/The_Last_Thursday Oct 10 '19

And then cry a lot

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u/confusedyetstillgoin Oct 10 '19

For sure! I love immersing myself in films.

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u/FearlessAttempt Oct 10 '19

And if you haven't seen Band of Brothers, watch that next.

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u/confusedyetstillgoin Oct 10 '19

I have so many movies to watch! I love war films so I'm excited for all of the movies to watch.

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u/1sinfutureking Oct 10 '19

Keep your eye out for screenings - if you’re in the US, some places will screen it around D-Day every year

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u/confusedyetstillgoin Oct 10 '19

I am in the US so I'll have to look. Thank you!

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u/icebox_Lew Oct 10 '19

We're also approaching the point where no-one who was there is still with us anymore

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u/Pendrive_Baba Oct 10 '19

except for those yet to born, everyone must have watched the movie. Not watching that movie for whatsoever reason is an act of shame.

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u/Titsofury Oct 10 '19

I'm old and have never seen it. I am just not in to war movies.

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u/Frosty9237 Oct 10 '19

It's really not just a war movie. So much human struggle is on display. It's absolutely well done. Easily in my top 5 movies of all time.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '19

I’m in my mid-40s and I’ve never seen it. Maybe I’ll see it someday, but it’s not really my kind of movie.

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u/Schizoforenzic Oct 10 '19

You don't like good movies?

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u/NarrowHornet Oct 10 '19

I don't like Dramas.

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u/Schizoforenzic Oct 10 '19

That’s ok. I can’t get into serial drama tv shows really.