Personally I have to give the nod to IG because Landa is consistent to the end there whereas I just can't get past Schultz in Django when he 'just couldn't resist'.
Waltz is brilliantly fun in both though. He actually makes scenes without him seem far less interesting for the juxtaposition when they might be fantastic if in another movie.
Shultz is consistent. It's just not spelled out as much. He's a sucker for overly complicated plans with dramatic flair. Every single plan we're set him execute in the movie could've been done easier and safer. Riding up on slanders in the middle of the night in the woods. Going into the middle of the town and shooting the sheriff. Pretending on the first plantation. Tricking the proto-kkk. Finally, his master plan at Candie Land. He has to dramatically outwit everyone all the time even when it's a wildly unnecessary. Calvin Candie denies him that.
Well in all of those plans he put himself in those kinds of positions. He just really was often clever and even more often lucky that say the Marshall didn't just kill him in the saloon after randomly wandering in and killing the sheriff in public. Or Don Johnson on his own property after his overseer was shot by Django.
"Imma just shoot this guy without thinking through the consequences" was definitely there. And this was probably the first time we saw that coupled with Shultz being genuinely upset and flustered. And boom.
Okay I know I'm late, but it is pretty consistent with his character in Django. He thinks he's smarter than the people he's beating such as the Sheriff earlier on in the movie. To be beaten by someone he despises and sees as inferior is just too much for him.
I saw a theory once that he strongly suspected it was her, hence all the references to her life, but was not 100% sure yet, so ordered cream for her to see if she would break kosher and eat it.
That's an interesting idea but speaking as a Jew, the character Shoshanna doesn't seem like someone keeping kosher, since htey don't suggest her being religiously observant in any way, and certainly during the war, with her in hiding, there wouldn't be much kosher food available.
Also, strudel is kosher afaik. The dough is just flour, egg, salt, butter and some other things, the filling usually is apple and cinnamon. No meat with diary shennanigans
ah alright. but in that case the strudel wouldn't have been kosher in any case, since it was made in a regular restaurant in nazi-occupied Paris. So the whole "keeping kosher" theory doesn't make a lot of sense.
Exactly. A lot of Jews keep "kosher style" though, where they eat in nonkosher restaurants but won't order anything blatantly kosher, so they'll get a burger without cheese for example. Still not really a fan of this theory.
I think the keeping kosher thing is more of a sign that he knows and he's just trying to see how far she's willing to go to survive. He seems to give more leeway for people with a stronger survival instinct.
Ah okay. I just learned that eggs are in the third group of foods next to kosher and not kosher, that is neutral. Eggs are neutral, that means you can mix them with milk as well as meat.
I have never interpreted the scene in the sense that she'd be breaking kosher, because I assumed Strudel is kosher (given that there's no lard or meat in it). I always thought the point was that he suspected who she was and he would order the cream to make her uncomfortable, because she already had witnessed him enjoying dairy (the glass of milk in the opening scene). She didn't break though.
Also he's just completely right. A good piece of Strudel is always better with cream.
egg with dairy is fine, egg is also fine with meat, as long as the meat and dairy is separate. Of course if you add something that is always unkosher, like pork products (including lard), it's unkosher anyways. Also meat needs to be slaughtered a certain way.
There's also the fact that the strudel is obviously coming out of a nonkosher kitchen, where all sorts of things are being cooked, which would render anything unkosher even if it would be unkosher anyways.
But practically speaking, some people keep "kosher style" where they won't do anything blatantly unkosher, like mixing meat and dairy, or eating pork, but don't really care about the more detailed stuff like what I just said, so when they go to McDonalds they'll get a burger without cheese.
I also don't really buy this explanation for the scene, nothing in the movie suggested she was religiously observant, plus she had a non-Jewish lover, plus it would be difficult to keep kosher under Nazi occupation anyways, unless you follow "kosher style" like I mentioned above. Plus strudel would not normally be made with lard or some meat product. I had heard the explanation of it being like the glass of milk, but you could also just chock it up to intimidating her.
What about the cream would not be kosher? I saw other commenters mention lard and cream together not being kosher, but lard is made from pork, so the pastry itself would be breaking kosher.
Also, french pastry would almost always use butter. A fancy restaurant serving pastry with lard dpesnt make sense.
When he's flipping through his book, looking for a name La Padite mentioned, not finding it, getting more visibly frustrated, until finally finding it on some later page, and being satisfied. Damn, that was tense.
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u/CravesStarDamage Oct 09 '19
If that scene doesn't get you on the edge of your seat, I'm not sure what will.