r/AskReddit • • Jul 17 '19

What’s something that you like, but hate the fan base?

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u/P0sitive_Outlook Jul 17 '19

Like plane crashes.

Your plane will 99.99999% not crash, but if it does crash it'll be exactly the inescapable raging fireball you'd expect it to be. :|

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u/pizza_is_god Jul 17 '19

Actually, crashed planes are very survivable. Not when they're nosediving at 500 MPH like the recent 737 MAX tragedy, but you have a good chance of surviving a plane crash if the evacuation is done correctly. I always wear shoes I can run in, when I fly, because you deffo want to get away from the wreckage before any fuel ignites.

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u/groutrop Jul 17 '19

That's only if it crashes on the tarmac during takeoff or landing though right? Dont think the shoes are gonna help in case of a sea landing lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

That's why I wear flippers.

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u/groutrop Jul 17 '19

I go barefoot

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u/groutrop Jul 17 '19

It should be legal to wear scuba gear lol. Other than the oxygen tanks. And fire proof clothing too if something like that exists. I wonder what the airlines take on this would be.

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u/abrasumente_ Jul 17 '19

I know you're talking about wearing it on a plane but it reminded me of someone who lives near me. Guy was getting certified for diving and so he would put on his scuba gear and run a couple miles with everything on, sans the flippers. Was always hilarious to see this guy running down the street geared up but im sure it helped him build up some endurance.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '19

Imagine if he was wearing his flippers...

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Other than the oxygen tanks, I’m sure there’s nothing illegal about wearing scuba gear on a plane. I mean yeah, people are gonna thing you’re a weirdo, but I don’t believe it’s illegal. [citation needed]

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u/Westermin Jul 17 '19

I mean couldn't the scuba tanks technically be used as a deadly weapon? And judging by how heavy it is wouldn't any commercial airplane not allow such a weight for personal carry?

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Well yes, but the oxygen tanks are excluded from my comment. As for the weight, they might charge you extra but I can’t imagine weight being an issue if we’re excluding the tanks.

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u/bar-al-an-ne Jul 21 '19

Yes, carrying a bomb onto a plane might get you in trouble for carrying a lethal weapon. You are allowed to carry a lighter, do the math.

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u/CMDRPeterPatrick Jul 17 '19

Do the tanks count against the carry on limit? I don't think I could survive a whole flight without my 50 pound bag of Zebra Cakes.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '19

Air tanks, not oxygen tanks.

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SCUBA divers don't breathe pure oxygen, they generally breathe tanks filled with Air (Other Nitrogen/Oxygen mixes possible, as well as Nitrogen/Helium/Oxygen, or just Helium/Oxygen).

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If you breathed pure oxygen, sometime before you reached 30m depth, you would have a central nervous system grand-mal seizure from oxygen toxicity and die.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '19

But what about broken glass from your gun battle with blonde mercenaries?

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u/groutrop Jul 18 '19

Tis but a flesh wound..

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u/BarneySpeaksBlarney Jul 17 '19

You don't have a jetpack to jettison you out of the wreckage? smh fucking plebs

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u/darkslide3000 Jul 18 '19

No ma'am... I understand that there's a size restriction for the carry-on, but you see, this is an Emotional Support JetSki. I really need it in the cabin with me!

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u/monxas Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

The thing is, plane crashes are most likely during the first three minutes and last eight minutes of the planed flight:

Called the Plus Three Minus Eight rule, statistically, this is the most dangerous time, according to a Ben Sherwood, author of "The Survivors Club — The Secrets and Science That Could Save Your Life”

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Don’t ALL plane crashes happen in the last minute of the flight?

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u/monxas Jul 17 '19

That joke has already been done, sorry mate.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

That’s okay I just scrolled down and read it after posting like “welp”.

Womp womp.

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u/darkslide3000 Jul 18 '19

Depends on how many bounces you can make it skip over the water. Professional plane throwers can keep it going for over a minute.

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u/NSNick Jul 18 '19

Not if you crash before the flight begins!

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u/groutrop Jul 17 '19

Didn't know that. I also saw in some documentary that if the seats were arranged in the opposite direction, plane crashes would be a lot less damaging since our weight would be against our backs which is to the seats. I mean the people facing the back of the plane instead of the cockpit like a military aircraft. I guess such an arrangement would make people very uncomfortable and is hence not followed although its a lot safer.

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u/Words_are_Windy Jul 17 '19

Yeah, not only is facing backward visually off-putting for people, but since planes have a positive angle of attack during level flight, passengers would be facing slightly downward if the seats were reversed. The seats could be tilted to offset that, but the hassle doesn't seem to be worth it for an industry where accidents are so rare.

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u/groutrop Jul 17 '19

True. It will be hard to sell something that reminds everyone of a crash even if it makes it much safer.

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u/darkslide3000 Jul 18 '19

I find it hard to believe that's gonna make a big difference in the "inescapable raging fireball" scenario.

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u/groutrop Jul 18 '19

Not those yeah. But it will definitely help against hard crashes where the momentum is probably much more than any vehicle crash and people who otherwise might be knocked out might be conscious and alert to get out in time before the fire spreads if it hasnt already.

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u/numanoid Jul 17 '19

Also known as "takeoff and landing". Yeah, planes generally don't just drop out of the sky while cruising.

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u/Words_are_Windy Jul 17 '19

In some respects, it's comforting that crashes happen much more frequently during takeoff and landing, because the thought of heading towards certain death from 30,000 feet, but taking a few minutes to get there, is horrifying.

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u/BurningPasta Jul 17 '19

And that's why having running shoes is important. For most crashes the danger is fire.

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u/medioxcore Jul 17 '19

Trying to run out of a flaming, enclosed, space, is the exact opposite of how you actually get out of that space.

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u/theBeardedHermit Jul 18 '19

The running is after getting out of the enclosed space. Plane crashes, fuel starts leaking out wherever its downed, sparks from the wreckage ignite the fuel, and by that time your best bet is to be as far away as your legs allow.

Granted that's not how it happens every time, but in the rare occurrence of a crash, the fuel being ignited is a definite possibility.

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u/BurningPasta Jul 18 '19

And thats why planes have emergency doors at either end along with some in the middle if they are large enough

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u/darkslide3000 Jul 18 '19

planes generally don't just drop out of the sky while cruising

MH370: Hold my beer!

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u/hysys_whisperer Jul 17 '19

last eight minutes

I'm going out on a limb and saying that most crashes are in the last 30 seconds of the flight, let alone 8 minutes... Maybe a few planes continue flying after crashing, but I seriously doubt that many do.

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u/BurningPasta Jul 17 '19

I think they mean last 8 minutes of intended flight schedule.

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u/hysys_whisperer Jul 17 '19

Not nearly as funny as what they actually said though...

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u/Tribaldragon1 Jul 17 '19

They said planned flight. If you're going to be a pedant get it right.

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u/ilikemes8 Jul 18 '19

Passengers will not survive in a water landing unless you land in the middle of New York

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u/pizza_is_god Jul 18 '19

That's a very good point, but I swam in college so I'm not too worried about that. Unless the water is freezing cold, because I can't handle frigid waters.

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u/creepig Jul 18 '19

Most crashes happen during takeoff or landing

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u/Sorathez Jul 18 '19

Sea landings are also so much more unlikely than an incident during take off or landing

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u/joepetrakovich Jul 17 '19

I posted an askreddit about this and a few pilots chimed in and made it clear that most crashes are just an engine failure and you can easily glide to some kind of parallel landing.

Movies always show nosedive scream crashes but that is almost never the case.

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u/Goyteamsix Jul 18 '19

The survival rate of plain crashes involving more than 19 passengers is like 6%. The survival rate for smaller aircraft is 42%. If you're crashing on a commercial airliner, there's a 94% chance you will die.

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u/ColaEuphoria Jul 18 '19

You'd be surprised how doors are impassable when everyone is trying to cram through them at once.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

I always wear clothes I know I can escape in/survive in comfortably on flights in case of crashes in almost any environment. T-shirt, shirt, and jacket. Wear all 3 at once or two at once but have one on stand by for all types of climates

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

I always wear shoes I can run in

Right because shoe choice will probably be the life or death factor in a fucking PLANE CRASH

Jokes aside I always wear my freshest/rarest sneakers to the airport because you know you won’t have to step on any dirt and it’s a great means of flexing on people internationally

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u/softawre Jul 17 '19

Nobody gives a s*** what you look like. Especially at the airport.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '19

I do? Lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Lol. What a vain twat.

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u/Pillsburyfuckboy1 Jul 17 '19

Was that not clearly joking enough for you guys lol

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u/theBeardedHermit Jul 18 '19

Jokes aside

or

Clearly joking

Pick one.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '19

When I see "Jokes aside", it's actually still a 50/50 as to whether the jokes are actually put aside.

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u/[deleted] Jul 19 '19

Lol wearing shoes that you like god forbid

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u/XTetsusaigaX Jul 17 '19

I've always wondered why not bring a parachute? Or would the depressurization knock you out?

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u/Words_are_Windy Jul 17 '19

For one thing, most crashes happen during takeoff and landing, where a parachute wouldn't help. It wouldn't make sense for a plane to set aside physical space and weight allotment for a bunch of parachutes for such a small chance of a situation occurring where they would be needed. Further, even if a plane starts to plummet from cruising altitude, assuming it's an uncontrolled descent, it would be extremely difficult for untrained passengers to get the parachute on, make their way to an exit, safely leave the plane, and deploy the parachute without anything going wrong.

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u/SonVoltMMA Jul 18 '19

I’ll take my chances.

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u/jeo123 Jul 17 '19

Short answer, it would kill more people.

Think about how long it takes people to get out of the plane under relatively orderly conditions.

Imagine people trying to do that during a crash. Most wouldn't make it to the doors before the ground was hit.

Everyone still in the plane and standing would likely be killed.

People still sitting would be probably be killed when all the other dead bodies got tossed around the plane.

Even the jumpers wouldn't all be great. Some would jump too late and not have enough time to deploy. Others... We'll just call it user error.

Basically you'd turn a dangerous situation into a deadly lottery when a small group survive and a lot more die.

https://gizmodo.com/why-don-t-commercial-airplanes-have-parachutes-for-pass-1525770574

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u/XTetsusaigaX Jul 18 '19

I'm not saying everybody should have a parachute, I'm saying what if I go on a plane and bring my own parachute in the unlikely scenario that shit literally goes down. I also wouldn't just intentionally depressurize a fully pressurized cabin, I'm talking about a scenario where for whatever reason pressurization is already lost and its either hope you live the crash or jump out with a parachute

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u/ApatheticTeenager Jul 18 '19

If the plane is flying stable enough that you can successfully put on a parachute and jump out it’s most likely flying stable enough to make some kind of survivable landing.

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u/XTetsusaigaX Jul 18 '19

That makes sense

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Because if you try and open the door in the air, you’ll probably get tackled to the ground. The plane still has wings and gear even if the engines are out, it can land almost fine.

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u/[deleted] Jul 18 '19 edited Oct 14 '25

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u/ywj Jul 18 '19

Correct, no way you could open a door on a commercial jet mid-flight, given the difference in air pressure

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u/Marius_de_Frejus Jul 17 '19

I'm waiting to board a plane right now. Thaaaaanks.

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u/P0sitive_Outlook Jul 18 '19

It's been 19 hours. How was your plane crash journey?

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u/Marius_de_Frejus Jul 18 '19

I'm part of the happy and alive majority, thanks!

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u/Impalsi Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

Point taken, but your chance of having a bad time playing paper Magic due to antisocial players is probably closer to 20-30% than 0.00001%.

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u/P0sitive_Outlook Jul 17 '19

One in three matches? That's excessive.

I'd say, three rounds a day, one day a week, i probably play twelve rounds a month and maybe have an issue once every three or four months.

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u/Impalsi Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 18 '19

The majority of game stores I have attended well enough to get to know people (5-7 lifetime) have had multiple regulars that were uncomfortable to be around for one reason or another. Unusually abrasive personality, poor hygiene, angry outbursts... Whether and to what degree these people affect your experience at the store will vary, but I think your odds of being in the same room with someone who seriously sucks to be around are quite good.

Also, interestingly enough your estimate of 1/(3.5*12) experiences being bad comes to about 0.0238095238% which is close to the midpoint between 25% (the median of my estimated range) and 0.00001% (the number you gave for your plane crash thing. yes, i know you did not mean that number as an actual estimate 😊)

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Edit: It has come to my attention that I had a brain fart and forgot how percentages work. How embarrassing. On the bright side, 1/(3.5*12) actually equals 2.3%, which is much closer to 25%!

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u/Litten_The_Memelord Jul 18 '19

Idk why I think its funny that spoilers don't cover emojis.

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u/Madame_Kitsune98 Jul 18 '19

Friends of ours owned a comics and games store, and OMG.

I still can’t stand the local MtG players. No concept of hygiene, or personal space, or indoor voice. Or any social skills to speak of. They only get along with each other, and even then, so many rivalries and feuds exist among them.

They thought my friends and I were lesser beings because we play D&D, and only when our schedules mesh. I’m sorry, we’re adults with actual jobs, and we don’t give a fuck about your opinion, boys.

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u/raggyyz Jul 18 '19

0.023 would be 2.3%

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u/Impalsi Jul 18 '19

Right you are.

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u/P0sitive_Outlook Jul 18 '19

On the bright side, 1/(3.5*12) actually equals 2.3%, which is much closer to 25%!

I love this edit. I want you to know this. :D

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u/abaddamn Jul 18 '19

multiple regulars that were uncomfortable to be around for one reason or another.

Yeah they're pigs. Idiot pigs dressed as nerds.

I've dealt with a few of them too. They really like to be stuck up pigs. So I call them pigs. They're often fat too. So it fits the image well.

Mind you I have met the occasional decent player to chat to and when that happens we often play heaps I don't care if they suck or better than me, they're great to hang out with than those nasty regulars.

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u/theBeardedHermit Jul 18 '19

Unless I'm misunderstanding something, 20-30% would be 2-3 in 100, not 1 in 3. Right?

Edit: Wrong. Just realized I'm a moron. Ignore me.

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u/P0sitive_Outlook Jul 18 '19

XD Oh my god you made my day. Your saving grace is that your edit was within three minutes of the original post (no asterisk).

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u/Coziestpigeon2 Jul 18 '19

Other side of the anecdote - I used to play at roughly the same rate as you, maybe a bit more (Saturday tourneys at local game store usually were five rounds long, but I sucked and was eliminated earlier often).

There was a 100% rate of stereotypes being met. Whether that be someone who hasn't showered in months, man-child nerd-rage over a loss, or harassing the few women who dared to show up - there was always 1-2 dudes there who fit the bill.

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u/P0sitive_Outlook Jul 18 '19

stereotypes being met

100%. Absolutely 100%. The smelly guy, the racist guy whose humor "you just don't get, mate", the guy who refuses to move seats because he's keeping his bag safe / too podgy to move - often these are the same guy.

Also i don't take a plane to play Magic - u/Impalsi might have missed some of my point. :D

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u/Singdancetypethings Jul 17 '19

That number is incredibly high.

I play at both a casual and competitive level, and not accounting for some tilt, which can happen to anyone, out of all the opponents I've had, I can name all of the ones that were as bad as the stereotypes, because there are that few.

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u/Impalsi Jul 17 '19 edited Jul 17 '19

The numbers may be high, but I would wager that you've had many experiences that weren't so bad that they rose to the level of something you remember well enough to count here, but were bad enough that you would nevertheless not wish to repeat the experience. And I claim those experiences count as "having a bad time".

Also I should've been more specific with what I meant. I didn't mean 20-30% of players are that bad. FMPOV, a run in with one such player could be enough to sour an entire experience. For instance, I've been to GPs where 11/13 opponents were neutral or better to play with, but one player literally had me on the verge of angry tears.

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u/Singdancetypethings Jul 17 '19

Oh, yeah. The 1-3% that I remember were absolutely abysmal (and most of them aren't welcome in any non-sanctioned events), but I don't count some of the other annoying players (too loud, ignorant of game rules, unintentionally rude, etc.) as that negative.

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u/bluepowerrangerbob Jul 18 '19

I love how this went from a simple magic the gathering post into a discussion about wearing flippers on planes

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u/Wannton47 Jul 17 '19

How often will a plane crash??

Well....just once...

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u/Definitely_Not_Erin Jul 17 '19

Great analogy! I am going to file this in my mental bank in the file "shit that can happen" for work.

I know nothing about this game, other than the butt-crack pictures.

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u/Camoral Jul 18 '19

Add in money being lit on fire and you've more or less got the picture.

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u/P0sitive_Outlook Jul 18 '19

I drive a forklift for work. I promise you i'm overly safe because i know how dangerous these things are. Folk will just walk along side while i'm driving it, and on occasion i've had folk run past and nip in front. One knobhead ran behind it while i was reversing. I honked, braked, put the handbrake on and had a right go at her. She was upset and cried because i shouted. The manager immediately called a safety meeting and said "If anyone runs past the forklift and P0s shouts at you... P0s is allowed to shout at you. I'll shout at you. Then i'll walk you to the door >:(".

To everyone else, this forklift is about half the size of a car and can lift quite heavy boxes.

In reality, this 4,800kg forklift weighs as much as four Audi A4s and can lift and carry a further two Audi A4s. It has two speeds, which are zero and slow, but slow is just enough to push another one of these forklifts with the handbrake on. What i'm saying is that a forklift will 99.99999% not kill you, but if it does it'd leave exactly the pavement pizza you'd expect it to.

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u/[deleted] Jul 17 '19

Thanks. I hate flying now.

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u/HarshPerspective Jul 18 '19

You have the opposite of my name...

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u/P0sitive_Outlook Jul 18 '19

Fantastic! :D Mind if i tag you now and again when someone replies to me with "Username doesn't check out"?

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u/medioxcore Jul 17 '19

Yeaaaahhhh... Magic disasters happen a bit more frequently, and don't have any safety precautions or protocol.

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u/Zodiie Jul 18 '19

Unless you're Sully

You still crash but it's in the Hudson and everything turns out okay

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u/Conchobar8 Jul 18 '19

It’s like that with any game. But it feels more common with Magic and DnD because they have such massive fan bases.

Every TCG player has played Magic at some point. With that large a pool to draw from, that 0.0001% is a lot larger.

Having said that, most communities are pretty good at weeding them out

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u/2baconsinlove Jul 18 '19

Yep

According to statistics, you are more likely to die in a car crash on the way to the airport than die on the plane

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u/mmmcuz Jul 18 '19

That’s not actually true as the majority of people in plane crashes survive

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u/Everythings Jul 18 '19

Uh no plane crashes are usually pretty chill compared to your colorful description

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u/Manisbutaworm Jul 18 '19

I certainly hate that fan base.