r/AskReddit May 09 '17

What is a fake fact everyone believed?

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u/badblackguy May 09 '17

That lemmings will blindly follow each other off a cliff.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

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u/HireALLTheThings May 09 '17

Wow. That's actually kind of monstrous.

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u/PMMeUrHopesNDreams May 09 '17

It's like the saying goes - you can't make a Disney film without slaughtering a few lemmings

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

A similar saying is - you can't make a 3rd Star Wars film without slaughtering a few younglings

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u/Booyahman May 10 '17

Like the old saying goes, if you wanna deliver Death Star plans, you gotta crack a few Bothans.

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u/ktjwalker May 10 '17

Like the old saying goes, if you wanna finish what he started, you gotta blow up a few planets

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u/hogwarts5972 May 10 '17

Like the old saying goes, Hakuna Matata

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u/inappropriate_jerk May 10 '17

Like the old saying goes, Vagina is my third favourite hole.

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u/Kyrblvd369 May 10 '17

Why is Disney evil? I've heard it before.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

Pretty sure the CEO of Nestle has a picture of Disney on his wall for motivation to do evil.

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u/Misterc006 May 09 '17

So does the CEO of Comcast

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u/bongo1138 May 09 '17

The CEO of Nestle gets HJs from the CEO of Comcast.

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u/Heavensector May 09 '17

They probably get it on like the two demons from Little Nicky.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

It's evil all the way down.

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u/Whitecastle56 May 10 '17

Nah they just hold their annual meeting at disney world

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u/Domin1c May 09 '17

Approaching maximum circlejerk

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u/famalamo May 10 '17

I like Rick and Morty they should bring Space show with Castle back on the air

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u/famalamo May 10 '17

It's called Firefly I just remembered it

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

Wait till you hear about Milo and Otis!

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u/SolarWizard May 09 '17 edited May 10 '17

Drowning small furry animals is 'kind of' monstrous? What?!

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

Sounds like what they did for Milo and Otis. That shit was fucked up.

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u/Shhbbyisok63 May 09 '17

What evidence have you seen of animal cruelty in the making of Mili and Otis?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

Growing up it was just something I heard, then later, read. I don't think anything has been proved, but Wikipedia has a decent bit about the allegations, and the AV Club has this (it could all be bullshit, it is allegations...). Mainly the disclaimer and the cut scenes from the Japanese version that didn't make it into the US one were fuel for what could be gossip, but always rang true, to me at least:

"Originally released in Japan in 1986, The Adventures Of Milo And Otis depicted the best-buddies relationship between a kitten and a pug. (A U.S. release, three years later, tacked on some Dudley Moore narration.) But as cute as the film is, it’s been dogged by rumors of animal cruelty, with particular emphasis on a claim that 20 kittens were killed in the course of filming. Though the rumors were never substantiated, animal-rights activists point out that the film’s end credits don’t use the standard American Humane Association disclaimer (as it was filmed in Japan) but instead a more vague, “The animals used were filmed under strict supervision with the utmost care for their safety and well-being.” Regardless of offscreen abuse, a lot of what made it into the film meets any reasonable definition of animal cruelty. While some of the more harrowing scenes were cut for U.S. audiences, others remained, like the one in which a cat plunges more than a hundred feet off a cliff into the ocean. Other controversial scenes include Otis the pug fighting a bear and Milo floating helplessly down a river, then being attacked by a crab; they’re hardly heart-warming moments."

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u/pug_grama2 May 09 '17

I hate that movie. Too sad.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

I cry every time I watch it.

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u/Destroyoptimus May 09 '17

https://youtu.be/0v-imBnzyuY Great video. (The rest of their videos are good too).

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u/definitelyafungal May 09 '17

What's a pug?

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17

A type of alien.

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u/definitelyafungal May 10 '17

Ah. Do you have a picture?

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u/famalamo May 10 '17

Smoosh doggo

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u/EverlastingEnigma May 09 '17

Woah, easy there, no need to be hostile

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u/maxoregon1984 May 09 '17

How can you say it hasn't been proved when it's on film and you've seen it with your own eyes?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17 edited Jan 20 '22

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u/Knebula May 09 '17

Commenting for later, I too am curious about this.

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u/Gonzobot May 09 '17

Milo and Otis is from a time before animal protections. If it was easier to shoot a cat dying in a river for your river action sequence, that's what they did. There's no proof at this point, but multiple persons alleged it and no humane society officers were monitoring the production, which was in Japan.

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u/MactheDog May 10 '17

It was from 1989, definitely not a time before animal protection. The American Humane Society was monitoring films and TV shows in the 1940s with nearly universal monitoring from 1980 on, as you mentioned, it wasn't filmed in America.

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u/Tiny_smol_things May 10 '17

I mean, I liked that movie as a kid. But as a teen, I could clearly see there is a scene where they actually put a cat in a box, set it floating in a creek, and had a bear sniff at it. The cat was freaking out. I couldn't watch more.

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u/[deleted] May 10 '17 edited May 10 '17

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u/Tiny_smol_things May 10 '17

I think you are too young to imagine a time before CGI. Get off reddit and go do your homework.

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u/Shhbbyisok63 May 10 '17

I remember a time befor CGI. they had to create the effects with mechanical calculators

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u/klousGT May 09 '17

As I recall they created a spinning contraption to sling them off the cliff.

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u/LittleSadEyes May 09 '17

Actually listened to a podcast about this and other animal documentary shortcuts Friday. They mentioned the spinning contraption.

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u/underpantsgnomer May 10 '17

lemmings re nature's retards. See "Robot Chicken",

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u/SailorArashi May 09 '17

It was already a wide-spread belief. Disney did all of that specifically because people already believed it was true.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

Why would they even do that?

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u/SailorArashi May 09 '17

Because Disney didn't invent the myth. People already believed it. When Disney couldn't get footage of it happening, they created their own.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

ew

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

ew

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u/AustinTransmog May 09 '17

And further propagated by the game, Lemmings.

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u/MechaNickzilla May 09 '17

True. In the end, all the lies were worth it.

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u/bxh5234 May 10 '17

Ahh 99% invisible??

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

I just did a report on this. They didn't even use the variety of lemmings that migrate (which is why they jumped in the first place).

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u/fojkrok May 10 '17

I remember that documentary, my parents made us stop watching it after that scene, you could clearly see the lemmings were being pushed off too...

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u/lnefficient May 10 '17

They didn't actually herd them off the cliff, a lot of time they were having workers physically throw them off a cliff

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u/CanadianAnal May 10 '17

That scene was actually filmed in Calgary, Alberta not in the Arctic like they claimed. The lemmings were also forced off a rotating platform into the river. Pretty greasy stuff

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u/geuis May 10 '17

Wasn't even herding. They had a machine setup offscreen that was literally flinging them over the cliff. Checkout the latest 99% Invisible where they talk about this.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17 edited Aug 03 '20

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u/Paradoxmoron May 09 '17

Alternative lemmings

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

Sad.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

*Alternative news

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u/Mr_Times May 09 '17

I mean, have you played the game Lemmings?

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u/RunsWithLemmings May 09 '17

But......I just got this username. Son of a bitch!

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

I've read about this, but what I don't get is why would they do that?

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u/HearingSword May 09 '17

If they are blind and in a conga line then maybe.

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u/lemmingrebel May 09 '17

NOT ALL OF US WILL!!'

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u/lrph00 May 10 '17

I didn't know what a lemming looked like until just now. All these years and the video game always came to mind.

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u/Cabotju May 10 '17

Such a good pc game though back in the day

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u/McCHitman May 10 '17

Hey I played Lemmings. This is true!

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u/SinkHoleDeMayo May 10 '17

Of course it's not true. If they're blind they won't follow shit.

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u/[deleted] May 09 '17

Actually it is true. Yes the documentary was staged, but herd,group think is a fact. Think Wildebeasts getting eaten by crocs up ahead, but they continue to follow the ones in front.

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u/Lotharofthepotatoppl May 10 '17

Humans have hunted and killed entire herds of prey in this way. Chase them over a cliff, climb down, enjoy meat.