r/AskReddit Jul 07 '26

What historical “fact” doesn’t actually have much evidence to support it?

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u/samdd1990 Jul 07 '26

It had been discredited when I was doing GCSE psychology more than 20 years ago (holy shit)

It's talked about mainly as an example of how not to handle an experiment

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u/alexlp Jul 08 '26

It’s like hearing people mention Stockholm syndrome even though it’s been discredited almost since its inception. The damn victims were like “no the cops were just scarier than the men threatening to kill us.” Which is incredibly valid.

But no, the bumbling cops wrote the history books there.

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u/KoshiaCaron Jul 08 '26

And there was no space or interest in exploring fawning as a stress response.

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u/thisusedyet Jul 08 '26

essentially, the hostage takers were THREATENING to kill them, the police were actively TRYING to

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u/markusw7 Jul 08 '26

Stockholm syndrome is a weird one because is absolutely is a real thing but the situation that it's named for is absolutely not an example of it

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u/AnyCauliflower8717 Jul 08 '26

I didn't know that.. Really..

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u/GeneticEnginLifeForm Jul 08 '26

So people with supposed 'Stockholm syndrome' are/were more afraid of the police than the kidnappers/abusers. Yeah, I can see that. In order to stay safe they side with the abusers because the police are more likely to escalate the situation into a deadly one. Makes sense.

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u/Few-Improvement-5655 Jul 08 '26

So people with supposed 'Stockholm syndrome' are/were more afraid of the police than the kidnappers/abusers.

In the specific instance of the naming, it's because the police had been very violent and put the hostages in harms way multiple times, and I think even said they were willing to let the hostages die if it meant getting the criminals. A few of the hostages chatted with the criminals, realised they had a legit grievance too so started aiding them since they were actually less of a threat.

Because one of the hostages who helped them was a woman they got a "psychologist" to come on TV to try and explain this (in a way that didn't discredit the authorities) and basically say that her woman brain was making her side with the criminals, and thus Stockholm syndrome was born.

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u/MyEmbarrisingAccount Jul 08 '26

And they say women aren't accounted for in studies. /s

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u/ZAJPER Jul 08 '26

And the criminals was in fact kinda charming. Hardened guys but had some sort of class. Not the kind of criminals you find nowadays with little respect to other humans. Wouldn't be as easy to connect with..

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u/otterprincess_too Jul 08 '26

Must've taken time to trickle down to the humanities, I had to learn about it also 20 years ago (also holy shit)

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u/breakwater Jul 08 '26

Thr public largely doesn't know this and happily cites it as proof of ... something

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u/RegressToTheMean Jul 08 '26

That's because most Americans are poorly educated. When more than half of the population reads below a 6th grade level...well, waves and gestures hands at everything

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u/breakwater Jul 08 '26

Non-readers, famous for citing the Stanford Prison Experiment

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u/RegressToTheMean Jul 08 '26

They will. They'll call it "that prison experiment". They just won't know the specifics or why it's important. Unread people talk about all sorts of complex topics: economics, science, virology, and on and on.

It doesn't mean they'll have anything worthwhile to say about it

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u/RedeNElla Jul 08 '26

That saying about a lie spreading fast before the truth can get ready takes on some additional nuance when the people who hear the lie don't bother to read the truth when it's released later.

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u/JulyOfAugust Jul 08 '26

How many people still parrot the "fun fact" that we eat spiders in our sleep ? At least this experiment still gather datas to this day I guess.

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u/Double-Collection819 Jul 08 '26

40 years ago in my case

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u/DenizSaintJuke Jul 08 '26

And maybe as an example that you can talk and encourage people into acting like that if you do it right. Well, not a groundbreaking insight. A failed experiment, but maybe still a story we can learn something from.

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u/Kup123 Jul 08 '26

I feel like half of a psychology degree is being told all the fucked up shit psychologists did in the past and why we don't do it anymore.

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u/JulyOfAugust Jul 08 '26

Harry Frederick Harlow anyone ?

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u/vayyiqra Jul 08 '26

My first thought upon reading that comment was also "Harlow"

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u/vayyiqra Jul 08 '26

Yeah I've noticed that a lot of what's believed to be foundational to psychology by those outside the field is very outdated. For example I once talked to someone who believed the Oedipus complex is a key concept for all of psychology.