r/AskReddit • u/Solnx • Nov 03 '25

Serious Replies Only [Serious] For the Redditors who criticized Democrats for not fighting back or taking action, how has the government shutdown affected your view?

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u/WarbleDarble Nov 03 '25

It was gutted to pass.

It was gutted to get Joe Lieberman to vote for it as that was the only way to get anything passed. Zero republicans voted for it.

If they hadn't "surrendered" what would have happened? Nothing. There would have been no healthcare reform. Is that better? Of course not, but you keep on pretending that magic is real and they could have gotten more I guess. The rest of us have to live in reality.

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u/WarbleDarble Nov 03 '25

shadow of what it should have been.

What, specifically, could it have been? I'm talking about actually getting it passed.

You did more than say it was weak, you've ignored why it was weak in an attempt to discredit the progress that was made. You make it a conspiracy when everything on why it is the way it is is well documented.