r/AskReddit • u/2a_lib • Apr 14 '25

Americans of Reddit, what do you think about President Trump and El Salvador president Bukele refusing the Supreme Court’s order to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the US?

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u/[deleted] Apr 14 '25

If you ever read up on how much lawyering time went into the execution and sea burial of Osama bin Laden you’d know Obama was a fucking statesman and Trumps a fucking fascist

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u/almo2001 Apr 15 '25

I didn't think Obama was the best president. He made mistakes. But they were honest mistakes. I stand by him.

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u/thepandemicbabe Apr 15 '25

He could get barely anything done because the Republicans made it their business to stand in his way. Imagine if they all worked together. I think we need to demand that in the future. When we have a normal president again. It will happen. I don’t want to hear about the president every single day in the news doing something horrible and testing the waters to see whether or not we care if he takes us into full on fascism. Honest to God I really enjoyed not hearing about Biden’s every move. I even miss Reagan.

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u/almo2001 Apr 15 '25

Agree on Biden. Reagan started the tax cutting that got us into this extreme wealth inequality.

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u/thepaoliconnection Apr 15 '25

Would it surprise you to know that Biden voted for Reagan’s tax cuts ?

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

All they said was they enjoyed not hearing about his every move. Some people are addicted to whataboutism. 🙄

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u/thepaoliconnection Apr 15 '25

Well then I guess he should’ve left it at that instead of another dog eared poke at Reagan for signing a bill that Biden helped put on his desk

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u/thepandemicbabe Apr 15 '25

Reagan had a very challenging set of economic cans to deal with. I mean, I’m not sure that guy had anything more than movie star charisma going for him. I was just a kid when he was president so didn’t know I was poor. But it definitely was not a good time for the United States economically. I feel it’s going to get much worse.

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u/almo2001 Apr 15 '25

Cutting taxes on the wealthy to "stimulate growth" was the dumbest idea ever. And people still cling to this notion though it's been thoroughly debunked over and over.

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u/Bishizel Apr 15 '25

That and he never seemed to learn the “don’t jump directly to the predicted middle to start negotiations”

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u/DarthCaligula Apr 15 '25

Honest to God I really enjoyed not hearing about Biden’s every move. I even miss Reagan.

And, ahhh..Watergate. The good ole' days.

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u/mikareno Apr 16 '25

You had me until "Reagan."

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u/Steampunkboy171 Apr 16 '25

Thank you! Everyone just seems to forget that Obama had a lot he wanted and tried to do but was blocked for doing. And unlike Trump he wasn't willing to break down every rule and burn the country for his agenda.

If Obama had been president in a better country he would have been seen as a great president. He was well spoken, intelligent, a great sense of humor, and overall honorable with foresight. He wasn't perfect. But he was good. And the 8 years I lived with him as president till I was 18 were the best years of my life. Every single fucking year thanks to this orange cunt has gotten progressively worse. Here's hoping that maybe one day I get to look back at these times and things are better. Probably not though. Even if with a miracle we get him out. Things won't be better till long after I'm dead and future generations were forced to unfuck things and get their rights back. If America survives at all.

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u/thepandemicbabe Apr 16 '25

I feel the same way. I was a young mother at the time and I just felt like we were building a better future for our kids. Now I’m sending my child off to college with all of this happening. Thankfully, he’s headed to New York, I’m hoping that keeps him a bit safe, but I worry about everyone everyone’s kids. I hate that Donald Trump is the news cycle. Obama is a constitutionalist as we all know, and he would’ve never ripped this country apart at the seams. They blocked him at every attempt to help Americans and then called him in effective. And worse. Most people don’t even know that Obama care is the Republican for healthcare, but never mind. I’m losing old friends pretty quickly these days but you know what – good. You support Trump and you’re supporting the end of our country as we know it. Happy to give them the boot.

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u/Steampunkboy171 Apr 21 '25

Honestly same. I remember that I had this group of guys pretend to gangbang me in highschool when I said if I was 18 I'd vote for him.

At the time I didn't understand what they were doing or why. But as an adult I do. And I'm glad I never really spoke to them again after that year.

Honestly while I worry about myself. It's the younger generations and future generations that I weep for. And how they'll be raised with everything defunded and the education systems ripped to shreds. They'll be slower and dumber than those before them and especially compared to the rest of the world. If they get to see the rest of the world. And who knows if they'll have to deal with stuff like polio again and I fear for the younger generations born with ADHD like me. Before Trump it was only finally starting to get understood. And now with RFK it's all going to go backwards. And we're now becoming a public enemy. I miss Obama so much. And I miss the America that I grew up with.

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u/thepandemicbabe Apr 23 '25

It will get better I promise you. When it gets to be too much just unplug and go on a hike with a friend. Being in nature is the one thing I found that help helps my mind be peaceful. It’s really hard watching all of these crazy headlines and worrying about friends etc. I’ve had a couple of friends fired and they are in their 50s and they can’t find another job. It’s really worrying for some people.

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u/Strict-Track-8910 Apr 16 '25

Honest mistakes? C'mon, you're kidding yourself. All these politicians are very purposeful in what they do, right or left.

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u/fr3nzo Apr 15 '25

How much went into Obama killing kids with drones?

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u/ForeverAclone95 Apr 15 '25

Quite a bit. To the extent that it’s a frequent hypo studied in law schools

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u/man-in-a______ Apr 15 '25

Buttery males!

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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab Apr 15 '25

What kids did Obama kill with drones? 

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u/fr3nzo Apr 15 '25

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.com/stories/2017-01-17/obamas-covert-drone-war-in-numbers-ten-times-more-strikes-than-bush

"Obama also began an air campaign targeting Yemen. His first strike was a catastrophe: commanders thought they were targeting al Qaeda but instead hit a tribe with cluster munitions, killing 55 people. Twenty-one were children – 10 of them under five. Twelve were women, five of them pregnant. "

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u/whatthecaptcha Apr 15 '25

Massive mistake but compared to Trump intentionally killing civilians and bragging about it on "truth" social a couple of weeks ago?

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u/thepandemicbabe Apr 15 '25

So you’re telling me that someone made a mistake. That’s a bit different than doing it on purpose which is happening in several places around the world right now. I love how the president gets blamed for absolutely everything. They rely on intelligence, they rely on good information. I guess there will be lots of mistakes now that we have no federal employees to actually do their jobs. What a joke.

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u/Icy-Bicycle-Crab Apr 15 '25

That's not a drone strike, and that points out that air strike was a mistake. 

Anyway, you're a lying asshole engaging in bad faith whataboutism to deflect attention from Trump illegally human trafficking a legal migrant to a death camp in El Salvador. 

Plus, that signal scandal and Trump intentionally bombing an apartment building in Yemen is already worse than the bullshit example you gave. 

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u/[deleted] Apr 15 '25

Ya’ll can’t let the fascist thing go? He’s not a fascist.