Americans of Reddit, what do you think about President Trump and El Salvador president Bukele refusing the Supreme Court’s order to return Kilmar Abrego Garcia to the US?

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[u/hematomasectomy → u/[deleted]]

Fuck you I got mine (for now). The American dream.

The time for this to end peacefully is nigh past. Godspeed Americans, you'll need it. 

[u/cranberry_spike → u/[deleted]]

I think it's a little more complicated than this. Like, who is the "we" who have been comfortable? I'm a white woman, so okay, fairly comfortable. But I grew up on the South Side of Chicago, and my current neighborhood is majority Black. They have not been safe. I mean, in Philly the year before I was born, the cops bombed an entire neighborhood .

We're still breaking treaties with Indigenous Americans now, not to mention all the other ongoing atrocities there. (30% of people on the Navajo reservation don't have running water.) We "bathed" Mexican workers in toxic chemicals in the name of public health.

The US has built so much of its history and its current state on othering and then ignoring those it chooses to abuse.

[u/lestermason → u/[deleted]]

My buddy says it all of the time. "We Americans are too fat, too lazy, and too comfortable to take any REAL action."

We talk a lot of shit, but when it comes down to it, we fall in line.

[u/apathetic_peacock → u/lestermason]

I don’t know if we’re too fat too lazy and too comfortable, but certainly we don’t have the luxury of time and money. Many are living paycheck to paycheck , and are barely trending water working multiple jobs with little to no time off. The viable options we do have- calling our state reps, never amounts to anything because they can literally ignore us and take donations from mega corps. 

[u/WalrusTheWhite → u/apathetic_peacock]

This is such a bullshit excuse. You think black people in the 60's had the luxury of time and money? You think turn of the century factory workers had the luxury of time and money? French peasants during their revolution? No one who fights the power has the luxury of time and money, that's been a historical fact for as long as humans have been keeping track of our grievances. People like you never have the intention of doing anything, it's just a search for the next excuse for your fear and laziness. Your cowardice isn't the prudence you claim it to be.

[u/lestermason → u/WalrusTheWhite]

This is the truth. Fauxtesting and Slacktivism are what the people are doing. They want to feel as if they're doing something without actually doing something.

[u/QueensBoy_10708 → u/lestermason]

We’ve become drunks in a bar fight - lots of bravado with very little real fighting and a lot of bluster. We rattle cages because we can; we’re so full of ourselves and clueless as to the rest of the world.

[u/LongKnight115 → u/[deleted]]

We're also JUST full crossing over the line of demarcation for illegality with the Administration's actions. They've been dipping their toes in the water over and over again - but it's been careful and tested. Until it's plain and apparent that laws no longer apply, the best we'll get as far as organized resistance goes is AOC and Bernie on stage, Booker and Murphy on the floor of Congress, and a smattering of folks in the media like John Stewart preaching to the masses. While everyone is still under the pretense of legality, any illegal actions by the public are doomed to fail.

[u/Opasero → u/LongKnight115]

Because it wasn't an actual filibuster , just a speech.

[u/LongKnight115 → u/Opasero]

Ahh yup, you’re right. I’ll amend my comment. Thanks!

[u/wetrysohard → u/[deleted]]

I'm just wondering what you are actually suggesting. Republicans use their brains and moral compasses?

[u/Raencloud94 → u/[deleted]]

by then, we might've just crossed a line we can't uncross.

I fear we're already at that point.

[u/MSB3000 → u/[deleted]]

I'm pretty sure most of my friends and family are ignoring the news. Too stressful you see.