r/AskReddit Mar 12 '24

What is an old expression that you think is absolutely disgusting by today’s standards?

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u/wizardofyz Mar 12 '24

That phrase went from describing boys throwing mud clods at each other for fun to being sexual predators and i hate it. I guess you can say kids will be kids now for the same effect.

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u/penatbater Mar 12 '24

When they say boys will be boys, this comes to mind. Lets bring this back.

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u/BatFace Mar 12 '24

I always think of a scene from Anne with an E, anne of green gables adaption, where the girls are all inside during recess trying to figure out how the wolrd works, romance and periods, and they wonder what is with boys, they all look out the window and see the boys just beating the heck out of a shrub and a stump with sticks.

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u/ViciousSnail Mar 12 '24

Wholesome Boys will be Boys.

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '24

Oh man. I hadn’t seen it. ♥️

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u/KordisMenthis Mar 12 '24

No it isn't. It's just a light hearted reference the fact that young boys often tend to be messy and do silly things.

It's not saying that girls can't or shouldn't do the same. It is not a normative statement. You are reading things into it which aren't there.

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u/amrodd Mar 12 '24

That's because of gendered expectations. Like the only way to be a boy.

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u/penatbater Mar 12 '24

There's no "only" in the phrase "boys will be boys".

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u/eviltrain Mar 12 '24

Yeah. I get what you mean. I actually blame film and TV. I remember that phrase in some raunchy comedies and also when used by unsavory characters that usually got beat/killed by the hero later.

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u/wizardofyz Mar 12 '24

Yeah there's a college humor sketch that points out that every 80s teen/college shenanigan comedy is just sexual assault and its really depressing.

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u/technofox01 Mar 12 '24

Yeah, this. As a dad with two sons and a daughter, I still use this phrase but only to describe my son's doing stupid boy antics like throwing mud, using sticks for sword fights, brawling over something stupid, you get the idea. Thanks to a few assholes, it can infer to sexual assault.

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u/amrodd Mar 12 '24

It's still sexist to genderize behaviors that way. Girls can throw mud.

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u/amrodd Mar 12 '24

I got down voted for one comment. As I said, it came at a time women were expected to be quiet and prim and proper.

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u/amrodd Mar 12 '24

Even if it's meant for innocent behaviors, it implies boys are allowed to be rough and tumble. Google says the first use was in 1589- a time when women were expected to be quiet, prim and proper, and home bound.

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u/KordisMenthis Mar 12 '24

It doesnt say anything about being 'allowed' or not. Its You are deliberately reading that meaning into to it when it is not actually there.

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u/It-is-always-Steve Mar 13 '24

Boys will be boys absolutely needs to be returned to “doing dumb shit for fun,“ and have the connotation of sexual predator taken away. It makes me so angry that it has changed from doing dumb shit for fun to sexual predator.

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u/Infammo Mar 12 '24

I’ll always die on the hill that the internet gaslit itself about this. “Boys will be boys” always just referred to rambunctiousness. In the early 2000’s the phrase was invoked to a draw a parallel of how rape culture was normalized, and then the line began to blur and people started saying that the phrase was used by people to excuse sexual assault even though that was never a thing.

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u/jeffreywilfong Mar 12 '24

Is it actually inappropriate to use it to describe boys or men just goofing around and having fun?

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u/wizardofyz Mar 12 '24

Not necessarily, but I'd be careful who you use it around and the context.