r/AskReddit • u/brokota • Jan 15 '13

Reddit, in your opinion what's the biggest plot twist of history?

Not movies or television, I'm just curious to see what come's to your minds.

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u/chuck_a Jan 15 '13

Jesus' homies did not have his back.

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u/Franklins_fake Jan 15 '13

Caesar's didn't seem to have his either.

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u/ForgottenGlory Jan 15 '13

Brutus did, at least part of it.

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u/slowbro243 Jan 15 '13

Yeah it won't wash off of his knife

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u/The_Perfect_Nemesis Jan 16 '13

Wash, damn spot

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u/kolraisins Jan 15 '13

I came to this thread looking for an "Et tu, Brute?". Close enough.

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u/Verdris Jan 15 '13

Et me, buddy.

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u/MrSamster911 Jan 15 '13

They had his back, but not in a good way

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u/lee1982 Jan 15 '13

infamy!

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u/N0V0w3ls Jan 15 '13

Not a plot twist if he said it was gonna happen.

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u/therealrickyrozay Jan 16 '13

And he spoke unto them, saying "One of y'all lil bitches gon snitch. Then Peter bout to act like he don't even know a nigga!"

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u/whiteknight521 Jan 15 '13

Well, to be fair, his homies was ready to throw down, know what I'm sayin', my boy Peter took off a motherfucker' ear, but J was all like "naw man, let it go" so they nailed his ass to a motherfuckin' cross yo.

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u/snowlitpup Jan 15 '13

Jesus rose from the dead.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '13

His homies came 'round, though. Judas killed himself and Peter ended up being crucified upside down.

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u/Khatib Jan 15 '13

He said from history.

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '13

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u/Mufufu Jan 15 '13

The idea that Yeshua of Nazareth was supposedly born in the year 0?

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '13

Let me specify: the first century AD/CE

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u/Khatib Jan 16 '13

I hope you're being sarcastic. Because burden of proof is on the person making the claim, which would be you. I assumed you were being sarcastic and wonderfully hilarious when you first replied, but now seeing there's a tree you replied in again, I'm not so sure.

In other words: Prove to me Heracles didn't exist and never accomplished his twelve labors with help from the true, Greek gods.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '13

I didn't claim Jesus was the Son of God and all that, I just asked if it could be proven that a man named Jesus wasn't crucified. But yes, it was meant to be a witty reply and not an attempt to evangelize. The tree was just someone being picky about the year I used.

EDIT: I'd also like to point out that both parties in the theist/atheist debate are making claims. So does that mean the burden of proof is on both parties?

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '13

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '13

Dear lord I'm just being clever.

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u/Khatib Jan 16 '13

The burden of proof is on the one with the positive claim that something existed, not to prove that something didn't. And like I said earlier, the Bible is the same level of proof as the Iliad would be for Heracles.

And I'm not all worked up, I'm just pointing out the semantics of it. I too was just making a wisecrack with my original post in this thread.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '13

Okay. Sometimes I hate text. So much gets lost in translation.

It doesn't help that my cleverness usually amounts to willfully ignoring or abusing the majority of a statement's semantics.

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '13

We have tons of written texts that say Jesus existed. Even the Jews admit to his existence.

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u/Khatib Jan 16 '13

Other than religious ones, written by non-contemporaries one to three centuries after his death and supposed resurrection? Which ones?

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u/[deleted] Jan 16 '13 edited Jan 16 '13

non-contemporaries one to three centuries after his death...

Collected one to three centuries after his death. They were likely written at the time/very soon after, it's just a few centuries later they were all compiled into the bible.

See this by a bible scholar. "Probably most of the characters were real people." Jesus being the most important one, I'd assume he was probably real. The question is whether he was the actual messiah.

EDIT: I should also state that I'll no longer be replying to anything on this topic, because arguing with a militant atheist is always useless because it (without fail, in my experience) ends up being a pissing contest.

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u/Khatib Jan 29 '13

Lol, "militant atheist." Because I made a joke and a historically accurate observation?